Who hit harder p4p?

[lparm]

but still you have to factor in the quality of those he fought

if we go by your logic then Edwin Valero is the greatest KO artist of all time

Exactly. Manny KO'd MAB, Erik, Hatton all elite fighters and all close to prime. Before the haters say they were getting old read the "close to prime" part again. And tbh alot of refs would have stopped Manny-JMM 1 after the 3rd KD. So if you look at the quality of guys Manny stopped compared to Kelley, Vazquez and Johnson it's really a huge gulf in overall talent. Not saying Naz only fought bums but if Vazquez, Johnson and Kelley are 1 round HOF'ers I'd be very very very surprised.

[JAB5239]

[QUOTE=pacman777;6007994]

Hamed's got insane power i admit

but how will you measure his power p4p? or Pac's?

by quality of KO's or by quality of opponents faced?[/QUOTE]



he does not understand logic...


been telling this bum that knocking out tomato cans aint hard

The only tomato cans you know are in your mommy's kitchen so you really shouldn't be interrupting the grown ups. We know you've never fought before since you only started following boxing a year ago. seriously, how can anybody even take your half assed opinion seriously?

[JAB5239]

Yep. People are blurring the lines between overall greatness and just pure punch power. Pac wins the former easily but Naz edges the latter.

Agreed.

Its all good though, this has been a pretty entertaning thread that hasn't gotten to out of hand.

[miron_lang]

I got a question for you miron......if Hamed was able to hurt Marquez (had they ever fought) as Pacquiao did in their first fight, do you think he would have stopped him?

There are many factors mate. Pacquiao assaulted JMM but he wasnt able to land something with the full impact that kayoed Chatchai Sasakul and Ricky Hatton.

If those kinds of shots from Pac landed on JMM he's not getting up. Now with Naz. His Best shot would probably KO JMM too.

My point is. NAZ looks spectacular yes. he kayoed bums and regular belt holders while PAC consistently Kayoed bums to good to legends with great chins.


Naz wasnt able to prove his MASSIVE power. all we got is opinions on how hard he hits based on his KO's over regular fighter. while Pac got all these evidence in videos knockin out legends.

Just imagine an arm shot with no leverage sends JMM's two feet up in the air.

If there's another option that says equal i would have selected it

[miron_lang]

Yep. People are blurring the lines between overall greatness and just pure punch power. Pac wins the former easily but Naz edges the latter.

Maybe but how do you prove it?

VIdeos of Pac was already posted. I dont think anybody posted a more impressive video of naz in this thread. Its just your opinion right?

I mean this is a ridiculous question from a very knowledgeable poster. Unless its a bait thread.

For the people that voted hamed i want you guys to find knockouts by hamed that surpass this;

Sasakul

[BawK]

Agreed.

Its all good though, this has been a pretty entertaning thread that hasn't gotten to out of hand.

Cosign

we can agree to disagree, its all good though

[Spray_resistant]

Maybe but how do you prove it?

VIdeos of Pac was already posted. I dont think anybody posted a more impressive video of naz in this thread. Its just your opinion right?

Its all just anyone's opinion really, I suppose the TS's question can not be conclusively answered. No more evidence is needed than the arguments and videos already posted in this thread. I guess its up to anyone else to read this whole thread and make a judgment...or not, watever.

[JAB5239]

There are many factors mate. Pacquiao assaulted JMM but he wasnt able to land something with the full impact that kayoed Chatchai Sasakul and Ricky Hatton.

If those kinds of shots from Pac landed on JMM he's not getting up. Now with Naz. His Best shot would probably KO JMM too.

My point is. NAZ looks spectacular yes. he kayoed bums and regular belt holders while PAC consistently Kayoed bums to good to legends with great chins.

First off, thank you for putting together a valid argument. Respect.

I do however still disagree with you. Besides Morales in the second fight, who has Pac stopped that was any better than the fighters Naz stopped? DLH was a part time fighter and came down to a weight he hadn't fought at in 10 years. Hatton still seemed shell shocked from the Mayweather loss asv evidenced by his dismal showing and being severely wobbled by Juan Lazcano. Barrera's team stepped up to the apron forcing the ref to waive the fight off. I love Pac and he's as impressive as hell, but this doesn't show me e had greater power, my friend.

Naz wasnt able to prove his MASSIVE power. all we got is opinions on how hard he hits based on his KO's over regular fighter. while Pac got all these evidence in videos knockin out legends.

Just imagine an arm shot with no leverage sends JMM's two feet up in the air.

As I've already pointed out, Naz's comp was pretty damn close when just comparing the ko's objectively AND he still showed better one punch power.

If there's another option that says equal i would have selected it

Fair enough.

[lparm]

Its all just anyone's opinion really, I suppose the TS's question can not be conclusively answered. No more evidence is needed than the arguments and videos already posted in this thread. I guess its up to anyone else to read this whole thread and make a judgment...or not, watever.

The only way to guage is by common opponents but even that is too much triangle theory bull**** to work. Otherwise Kirkland Laing would be an ATG because he beat Duran. See where I'm going with this?

[JAB5239]

Cosign

we can agree to disagree, its all good though

If I had some green left to give you, you'd have it my man. You seem like a classy guy, I respect that.