Vergil Ortiz vs Egidijuios Kavuva.... Mean Machine

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  • Satir
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    #21
    anyway, just like Steve Kim i really like this match-up
    looks like WW division is moving forward despite Spence and Crawford holding them belts hostage, probable Ortiz - Kava, Avanesyan - Yeleussinov, James - Butaev, need to see Stanionis, Ennis and Abdukahorov fight smn this summer

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    • Combat Talk Radio
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      #22
      Originally posted by Satir
      anyway, just like Steve Kim i really like this match-up
      looks like WW division is moving forward despite Spence and Crawford holding them belts hostage, probable Ortiz - Kava, Avanesyan - Yeleussinov, James - Butaev, need to see Stanionis, Ennis and Abdukahorov fight smn this summer
      Spence isn't holding anything hostage, he's fresh off beating four Top 5 Welterweights in title defenses and he's trying to get a fight done with WBA Super Champion Ugas.

      Now that Manny is stripped, there's only one welterweight in the entire division that's legit holding a belt hostage - and it's the one guy who has not defended against a Top 5 and only one Top 10. And you know who that is.

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      • Satir
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        #23
        Originally posted by revelated

        Spence isn't holding anything hostage, he's fresh off beating four Top 5 Welterweights in title defenses and he's trying to get a fight done with WBA Super Champion Ugas.

        Now that Manny is stripped, there's only one welterweight in the entire division that's legit holding a belt hostage - and it's the one guy who has not defended against a Top 5 and only one Top 10. And you know who that is.
        this is a little stretch, M.Garcia wasnt even ranked in WW when they fought, Peterson hasnt been in top 5 for a while and had only one fight at WW before they fought, D.Garcia had 2 loses prior to their fight so its a borderline, the only top5 is probably Porter and again - guy with 2 loses

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        • SplitSecond
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          #24
          I’m sure Ortiz’s team prefer this fight before Crawford for the experience. Good fight.

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            #25
            Originally posted by Satir

            this is a little stretch, M.Garcia wasnt even ranked in WW when they fought, Peterson hasnt been in top 5 for a while and had only one fight at WW before they fought, D.Garcia had 2 loses prior to their fight so its a borderline, the only top5 is probably Porter and again - guy with 2 loses
            Mikey Garcia was #2 when he fought Spence. Did I agree with it? Hell no. But he was.

            Shawn Porter - Top 5 and champion.

            Danny Swift - Top 5. Agree? Hell no. But he was.

            And when Spence fought Kell Brook, Brook was the champion - as in #1 and at welterweight, Top 5. Easily. Because at welter he was undefeated.

            That's 4, bro.

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            • Southpawology
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              #26
              interesting, robert garcia is familiar with egis because he used to train at his gym alot

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              • Mister Wolf
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                #27
                Watch for the right hand. Dude can crack.

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                • kushking
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by ShaneMosleySr
                  If you criticize Crawford for ducking Ortiz after Ortiz refuses to enforce his number one ranking, I’ll gladly point out the form Ortiz didn’t fill out to enforce his position.

                  Just like I did when you pretended Shawn Porter was a victim when he was ducking.


                  No matter how many times how many ppl prove you wrong you insist you're right. How many times has it been explained to you?(even Top Rank themselves told you the same thing I did, Bud doesn't have normal mandatory commitments as a network contract Super champion,he is allowed to duck Porter,& Ortiz was elevated by winning Wbo international,yet you continue with your bs about Porter & your dumb form claims. If what you were saying was true Ortiz would've been mandatory automatically

                  (thats the requirement for what you're claiming to be true,if Porter actually ducked mandatory,WBO automatically makes next guy in line mandatory,that never happened because Porter like Ortiz hasn't been ordered because of WBO rules)

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                  • ShaneMosleySr
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                    #29
                    why didn’t shawn Porter sign the one page document on the wbo website and send it to them?

                    Originally posted by kushking

                    No matter how many times how many ppl prove you wrong you insist you're right. How many times has it been explained to you?(even Top Rank themselves told you the same thing I did, Bud doesn't have normal mandatory commitments as a network contract Super champion,he is allowed to duck Porter,& Ortiz was elevated by winning Wbo international,yet you continue with your bs about Porter & your dumb form claims. If what you were saying was true Ortiz would've been mandatory automatically

                    (thats the requirement for what you're claiming to be true,if Porter actually ducked mandatory,WBO automatically makes next guy in line mandatory,that never happened because Porter like Ortiz hasn't been ordered because of WBO rules)

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                    • JakeTheBoxer
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                      #30
                      I won`t be surprised if Mean machine wins. Ortiz is overrated prospect.

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