Comments Thread For: Mike Tyson Feels Mayweather, Right Now, is Better Than All Top Guys

[The D3vil]

Well you're entitled to your opinion and that's a beautiful thing, but before you make your point it would be good if you consider all options
Floyd fought Oscar @ Oscar's natural weight of 154, on fight night Oscar came in heavier than 154, Floyd came in lighter

Floyd also fought cotto@ 154, cottos natural fighting weight, he could have drained cotto by making the fights 147 but he didn't

IMO, it would have been okay for Floyd not to entertain the canelo fight, that was a very risky fight, but Floyd took it @ a catch weight, no dehydration clause & Floyd schooled canelo, now people say canelo was green, even canelo says he was green, but guess what canelo didn't think canelo was green even then, so his statement is now supposed to mean something?

Floyd fought maidana, that was supposed to be easy, but boxing don't care what you think, styles make fights Floyd got more than what he bargained for, it ended up being one of his real tough fights, maidana style was one that could give Floyd fits, if Floyd was purely a business man he wouldn't run that back, but guess what.....he did......you really believe that Paul Williams had a style that would give Floyd fits(lol)......ohhh u think Paul Williams or Paul spadafora would have outboxed Floyd in a real fight(lol)

Floyd ran all his tough fights back(if all he cared about was business, this wouldn't be the case, he wouldn't even fight for so long)

Floyd vs Spence..........really, even Thurman didn't want Spence
Floyd vs shawn...........really, Floyd wins, then guys like you would say he fought a green Shawn/ Thurman(of course you'd say that because you're saying the same thing about canelo)
Manny only just fought Thurman, the real reason is cause it only just made business sense

Floyd fought a man that gave mannny fits and eventually knocked Manny out, yes Floyd was heavier in that fight but that's not the point, the point is JMM couldn't pay gloves on Floyd,he couldn't catch floyd at all( if you think the extra 7 pounds would have made a difference, after watching that fight(smfh)

Floyd vs Khan.....a fight that could have happened but didn't, seriously, you think Floyd avoided Khan, seriously?

Floyd vs berto......that fight could have happened earlier,but berto got injured, after all berto gave this beautiful sport, you really think he didn't deserve that 5M...... really?? That would be sad

Dude, 154 was not Cotto's natural weight.

Oscar's natural weight wasn't 154 either.

Where did you get that from?

Oscar started his boxing life at 130, just like Floyd did.

Cotto started at 135

You can say Floyd beat a guy who beat a guy, but George Foreman massacred Joe Frazier twice, who beat Ali in the "Fight of the Century", yet Ali beat and stopped Foreman.

The triangular theory does not always work in boxing.

Manny fought JMM 4 times, of course he gave him fights. They knew each other like the backs of each others hands. and yes, Floyd weight bullied the fxck out of Marquez. We don't know how the weight effected Marquez, who was coming from 2 weight classes up.

I do think Floyd avoided Khan, Brook, Thurman, Porter, and Spence.

It doesn't matter if he would've beat them or not, he didn't want to fight them for some reason

That happens in boxing all the time.

Sometimes a guy doesn't want to have to dig deep to beat a guy.

That's what makes guys like Muhammad Ali and Evander Holyfield special.

They didn't fight fights on paper and say, "Well, I probably beat that guy, so why fight him?"

Fights are fought in the ring.

Floyd had the ability to fight anybody in the world he wanted from 2007 on after beating Oscar, including facing Oscar, who many thought won the 1st fight, again.

He instead chose to retire and let Oscar get beaten up by Manny Pacquaio instead.

He chose not to fight young tough fighters in their primes.

Great business decisions, but when all is said & done that shxt goes on your record.

Meanwhile, Pac was fighting undefeated champions in their primes, a decade younger than him at 40 years old.

These things matter.

[Walexhris]

Dude, 154 was not Cotto's natural weight.

Oscar's natural weight wasn't 154 either.

Where did you get that from?

Oscar started his boxing life at 130, just like Floyd did.

Cotto started at 135

You can say Floyd beat a guy who beat a guy, but George Foreman massacred Joe Frazier twice, who beat Ali in the "Fight of the Century", yet Ali beat and stopped Foreman.

The triangular theory does not always work in boxing.

Manny fought JMM 4 times, of course he gave him fights. They knew each other like the backs of each others hands. and yes, Floyd weight bullied the fxck out of Marquez. We don't know how the weight effected Marquez, who was coming from 2 weight classes up.

I do think Floyd avoided Khan, Brook, Thurman, Porter, and Spence.

It doesn't matter if he would've beat them or not, he didn't want to fight them for some reason

That happens in boxing all the time.

Sometimes a guy doesn't want to have to dig deep to beat a guy.

That's what makes guys like Muhammad Ali and Evander Holyfield special.

They didn't fight fights on paper and say, "Well, I probably beat that guy, so why fight him?"

Fights are fought in the ring.

Floyd had the ability to fight anybody in the world he wanted from 2007 on after beating Oscar, including facing Oscar, who many thought won the 1st fight, again.

He instead chose to retire and let Oscar get beaten up by Manny Pacquaio instead.

He chose not to fight young tough fighters in their primes.

Great business decisions, but when all is said & done that shxt goes on your record.

Meanwhile, Pac was fighting undefeated champions in their primes, a decade younger than him at 40 years old.

These things matter.

Dude, 154 was not Cotto's natural weight.

Oscar's natural weight wasn't 154 either.

Where did you get that from?

Oscar started his boxing life at 130, just like Floyd did.

Cotto started at 135

You can say Floyd beat a guy who beat a guy, but George Foreman massacred Joe Frazier twice, who beat Ali in the "Fight of the Century", yet Ali beat and stopped Foreman.

The triangular theory does not always work in boxing.

Manny fought JMM 4 times, of course he gave him fights. They knew each other like the backs of each others hands. and yes, Floyd weight bullied the fxck out of Marquez. We don't know how the weight effected Marquez, who was coming from 2 weight classes up.

I do think Floyd avoided Khan, Brook, Thurman, Porter, and Spence.

It doesn't matter if he would've beat them or not, he didn't want to fight them for some reason

That happens in boxing all the time.

Sometimes a guy doesn't want to have to dig deep to beat a guy.

That's what makes guys like Muhammad Ali and Evander Holyfield special.

They didn't fight fights on paper and say, "Well, I probably beat that guy, so why fight him?"

Fights are fought in the ring.

Floyd had the ability to fight anybody in the world he wanted from 2007 on after beating Oscar, including facing Oscar, who many thought won the 1st fight, again.

He instead chose to retire and let Oscar get beaten up by Manny Pacquaio instead.

He chose not to fight young tough fighters in their primes.

Great business decisions, but when all is said & done that shxt goes on your record.

Meanwhile, Pac was fighting undefeated champions in their primes, a decade younger than him at 40 years old.

These things matter.

Do you know the meaning of natural weight, so because Manny started fighting at a hundred and something, does that make it his natural weight right now?
at the time Floyd fought cotto, he's fights were at 154 and Floyd met him there
at the time Floyd fought Oscar he was fighting at 154 and Floyd met him there(check Floyd's last fight b4 Oscar)

B4 typing , pls remember people actually read these things, don't tarnish ur brand

[Walexhris]

Dude, 154 was not Cotto's natural weight.

Oscar's natural weight wasn't 154 either.

Where did you get that from?

Oscar started his boxing life at 130, just like Floyd did.

Cotto started at 135

You can say Floyd beat a guy who beat a guy, but George Foreman massacred Joe Frazier twice, who beat Ali in the "Fight of the Century", yet Ali beat and stopped Foreman.

The triangular theory does not always work in boxing.

Manny fought JMM 4 times, of course he gave him fights. They knew each other like the backs of each others hands. and yes, Floyd weight bullied the fxck out of Marquez. We don't know how the weight effected Marquez, who was coming from 2 weight classes up.

I do think Floyd avoided Khan, Brook, Thurman, Porter, and Spence.

It doesn't matter if he would've beat them or not, he didn't want to fight them for some reason

That happens in boxing all the time.

Sometimes a guy doesn't want to have to dig deep to beat a guy.

That's what makes guys like Muhammad Ali and Evander Holyfield special.

They didn't fight fights on paper and say, "Well, I probably beat that guy, so why fight him?"

Fights are fought in the ring.

Floyd had the ability to fight anybody in the world he wanted from 2007 on after beating Oscar, including facing Oscar, who many thought won the 1st fight, again.

He instead chose to retire and let Oscar get beaten up by Manny Pacquaio instead.

He chose not to fight young tough fighters in their primes.

Great business decisions, but when all is said & done that shxt goes on your record.

Meanwhile, Pac was fighting undefeated champions in their primes, a decade younger than him at 40 years old.

These things matter.

The triangular theory doesn't work in boxing, I bet you got that nonsense from bredman, don't be a product of another man's philosophies, the truth is 90% of the time, the triangle theory works in boxing....the right statement should be, "the triangle theory doesn't work all the time"

[Monzon99]

if only floyd had a quarter of Mike Tyson's confidence.

[Monzon99]

Tyson is cleverly applying pressure on floyd to stop with the fake nonsense wwf fake fights and do a real fight vs a top welter like crawford or pac.

[PunchyPotorff]

Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
They found an IV in his mansion leading up to the Berto fight, but Floydie being Floydie... the athletic commission wimped out and let it pass. And BTW, he fought an injured Pac who should've just postponed the fight until the shoulder issue healed up. Yes, 7 years ago, he was P4P. Newsflash, friend... 7 years ago isn't today.

Pac is the one who lied. He either lied on the state athletic forms when he said he had no current injuries or he lied post fight when he said his shoulder was injured coming into the fight. But you put the blame of Floyd for something Pac stated after the fight? is he telepathic and should have known to delay the fight?

Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
Juicing has been illegal for many many years. I have already said Pac made the mistake of going forward with the fight when he should've gotten the shoulder problem fixed first. It was a huge fight. I hope you're not insinuating he had no injury. Any further discussion is useless as I see I'm conversing with an obvious floydieaholic. Besides, then was then, now is now. Two completely difference scenarios. Floydie would be embarrassed now. Why else do you think he quit, with all the cashish he made each fight?

Which fighter goes into a fight injury free, I hope ure not insinuating that Floyd was injury free, cause then it would be obvious that I'm conversing with a pacaholic....we all know that Floyd has weak hands, we know he's been fighting with broken hands almost his entire career
i also hope you're not insinuating that if Pacquiaoie didn't have the shoulder injury he would have fought a different fight, cause that would be just silly, because to say that would mean you're blind to the fact that Pacquiaoie is now more economical with his punches(he's matured as a fighter)......yeah your hero is a late bloomer

Wow, you floydieholics never stop spewing mindless b.s. do ya? LOL!!!

[PunchyPotorff]

Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
They found an IV in his mansion leading up to the Berto fight, but Floydie being Floydie... the athletic commission wimped out and let it pass. And BTW, he fought an injured Pac who should've just postponed the fight until the shoulder issue healed up. Yes, 7 years ago, he was P4P. Newsflash, friend... 7 years ago isn't today.



Juicing has been illegal for many many years. I have already said Pac made the mistake of going forward with the fight when he should've gotten the shoulder problem fixed first. It was a huge fight. I hope you're not insinuating he had no injury. Any further discussion is useless as I see I'm conversing with an obvious floydieaholic. Besides, then was then, now is now. Two completely difference scenarios. Floydie would be embarrassed now. Why else do you think he quit, with all the cashish he made each fight?

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What if Floyd was to unretire and lined up Mathysse, Brandon Rios, Broner, Jessie Vargas and Thurman, would he be great in your eyes then?

What if you stop making wackio scenarios? Floydie was the Head Ducker... waited out Mosely and Pac til they were past prime, never fought Margarito, made Maidana change gloves... the list is long. But keep worshiping him. Your little cult is safe and sound, no worries. LOL!!!

[GrandpaBernard]

Floyd 1 the most skilled of all time and schooled other greats on multiple occasions

these Pernell Whitaker RJJ Floyd level fighters aren’t in every generation

[PunchyPotorff]

Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
Tyson took too many head punches back in the day, and these days he's just blabbering away nonsense to get attention. That's all this is. A Canelo fight now would embarrass Floydie, and that's just one of many current top fighters who would embarrass him. Floydie had his day, and now he does easy exhibitions for more big piles of cashish. He should either stick with training and/or maybe do a few more exhibitions. That's his level now... nothing more.

Easy there. BoxingScene Staff twisting Tyson’s words. He was specifically only talking about the Welterweight division; Crawford vs Spence. He said Crawford and Spence wouldn’t mind fighting YouTubers too, and that Mayweather is better than Crawford and Spence. He couldn’t remember Spence’s name too when saying it. Mike didn’t say he’d beat anyone from 154+ and knows Jake Paul is 200lbs

Never said for floydie to take on all weight classes. But he would definitely get demolished if he took on Canelo again. And that goes out to the floydieholics who think he can beat Canelo still.

[PunchyPotorff]

Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View Post
Originally posted by PunchyPotorff
They found an IV in his mansion leading up to the Berto fight, but Floydie being Floydie... the athletic commission wimped out and let it pass. And BTW, he fought an injured Pac who should've just postponed the fight until the shoulder issue healed up. Yes, 7 years ago, he was P4P. Newsflash, friend... 7 years ago isn't today.



Juicing has been illegal for many many years. I have already said Pac made the mistake of going forward with the fight when he should've gotten the shoulder problem fixed first. It was a huge fight. I hope you're not insinuating he had no injury. Any further discussion is useless as I see I'm conversing with an obvious floydieaholic. Besides, then was then, now is now. Two completely difference scenarios. Floydie would be embarrassed now. Why else do you think he quit, with all the cashish he made each fight?

Salt water is not juicing. Pacquiao himself said he wasn't injured going in to the fight, he said it happened in the 4th round. He had the shoulder problem since the DLH fight. Did it affect all his fights. These are Pacquiao and his teams own words. If he came back now he'd still be among the best in the sport. Pacquiao is still beating up these guys and he was easily dealt with by Mayweather.

So you actually believe the salt water story? LOL!!! And no, Pac hasn't been fighting stiffs. Thurman was (and still is) a top fighter, and Pac has certainly fought no worse opposition than floydie did. And yes Pac WAS in fact with shoulder injury going into the floydie fight. Roach said so himself, said he didn't want to go forward with it but Pac wanted to. A mistake. Should've waited til healed for a fight that big. His mistake.Don't try twisted words around.