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Originally posted by Scopedog View PostNah. Even against McGregor he looked like a shadow of his former self. Maybe he was just carrying McGregor but I honestly believe that he was still just old and very rusty as well. I wouldn't give him a hope in hell against Spence, Crawford, or even the current version of Pacquiao, honestly.Walexhris likes this.
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That's cool but I'm still not favoring Floyd to beat Spence or Crawford at this stage of his LIFE. I think even he knows it cryptically making mention of it during that interview with Gillie & Wallo. He has a point:
"I can make $30-40 Mill and fight one of these younger guys and risk getting hurt. Or I can make $100 Mill against a Youtuber? Sign Me Up!".
Some will take that as a shot to Floyd but he's essentially asking, "What would ya'll do if ya'll were me!?!?!".Walexhris likes this.
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Mike is a historian, but that doesn't mean he gets it right all the time. Here, he states that Floyd is better than all the current fighters, meaning what, he could beat them??? Nope!! Floyd can beat Bud Crawford right now? Gtfoh. Floyd doesn't even believe that bs. If he did, he'd still be fighting real ranked boxers, instead of youtube guys. Mike also says Floyd makes more fighting nobodies, as if that's further evidence that Floyd is better than everyone else. More nonsense. One has zero to do with the other. Floyd is a brand, so of course he's gonna generate more money. Let Floyd get in the ring with a live body. Fight any of the top 10 guys-Porter, Spence, Crawford, Ennis, Ortiz especially, and let's see what happens.
i never figured out why Floyd never spoke Paul Williams name when they were both champions. Paul said he'd love to fight Floyd, on many occasions. Floyd never even uttered his name. But, i'm getting off topic, that's for another dayLast edited by archiemoore1; 05-17-2021, 01:04 PM.
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Originally posted by PunchyPotorff View PostOriginally posted by PunchyPotorff
They found an IV in his mansion leading up to the Berto fight, but Floydie being Floydie... the athletic commission wimped out and let it pass. And BTW, he fought an injured Pac who should've just postponed the fight until the shoulder issue healed up. Yes, 7 years ago, he was P4P. Newsflash, friend... 7 years ago isn't today.
Juicing has been illegal for many many years. I have already said Pac made the mistake of going forward with the fight when he should've gotten the shoulder problem fixed first. It was a huge fight. I hope you're not insinuating he had no injury. Any further discussion is useless as I see I'm conversing with an obvious floydieaholic. Besides, then was then, now is now. Two completely difference scenarios. Floydie would be embarrassed now. Why else do you think he quit, with all the cashish he made each fight?
i also hope you're not insinuating that if Pacquiaoie didn't have the shoulder injury he would have fought a different fight, cause that would be just silly, because to say that would mean you're blind to the fact that Pacquiaoie is now more economical with his punches(he's matured as a fighter)......yeah your hero is a late bloomer
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I love Mike, but he's fallen prey to the "hot take" culture we have now in sports where you just say outrageous shxt just to be saying it, ala Skip Bayless & Stephen A. Smith.
Floyd didn't want it with Spence, Thruman, Kell Brook, and Shawn Porter back in 2015.
He could've fought any of them he wanted.
He fought Andre Berto for a reason
Floyd as a fighter was an all-time great talent, who will be remembered more as a businessman than a fighter because he didn't push himself, even as the permanent A-side fighter.
I mean, being a top 20-25 all-time fighter isn't all that bad, plus he's the richest fighter ever
But no, he could never be the TBE never fighting outside of America & avoiding guys like Paul Williams and others who would've given him a fight.
Sadly, Manny will go down as more respected, beloved, and revered because he did take risks and fought everybody up until he was too old and became a politician, even though Floyd beat him head to head.JakeTheBoxer likes this.
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Originally posted by The D3vil View PostI love Mike, but he's fallen prey to the "hot take" culture we have now in sports where you just say outrageous shxt just to be saying it, ala Skip Bayless & Stephen A. Smith.
Floyd didn't want it with Spence, Thruman, Kell Brook, and Shawn Porter back in 2015.
He could've fought any of them he wanted.
He fought Andre Berto for a reason
Floyd as a fighter was an all-time great talent, who will be remembered more as a businessman than a fighter because he didn't push himself, even as the permanent A-side fighter.
I mean, being a top 20-25 all-time fighter isn't all that bad, plus he's the richest fighter ever
But no, he could never be the TBE never fighting outside of America & avoiding guys like Paul Williams and others who would've given him a fight.
Sadly, Manny will go down as more respected, beloved, and revered because he did take risks and fought everybody up until he was too old and became a politician, even though Floyd beat him head to head.
Floyd fought Oscar @ Oscar's natural weight of 154, on fight night Oscar came in heavier than 154, Floyd came in lighter
Floyd also fought cotto@ 154, cottos natural fighting weight, he could have drained cotto by making the fights 147 but he didn't
IMO, it would have been okay for Floyd not to entertain the canelo fight, that was a very risky fight, but Floyd took it @ a catch weight, no dehydration clause & Floyd schooled canelo, now people say canelo was green, even canelo says he was green, but guess what canelo didn't think canelo was green even then, so his statement is now supposed to mean something?
Floyd fought maidana, that was supposed to be easy, but boxing don't care what you think, styles make fights Floyd got more than what he bargained for, it ended up being one of his real tough fights, maidana style was one that could give Floyd fits, if Floyd was purely a business man he wouldn't run that back, but guess what.....he did......you really believe that Paul Williams had a style that would give Floyd fits(lol)......ohhh u think Paul Williams or Paul spadafora would have outboxed Floyd in a real fight(lol)
Floyd ran all his tough fights back(if all he cared about was business, this wouldn't be the case, he wouldn't even fight for so long)
Floyd vs Spence..........really, even Thurman didn't want Spence
Floyd vs shawn...........really, Floyd wins, then guys like you would say he fought a green Shawn/ Thurman(of course you'd say that because you're saying the same thing about canelo)
Manny only just fought Thurman, the real reason is cause it only just made business sense
Floyd fought a man that gave mannny fits and eventually knocked Manny out, yes Floyd was heavier in that fight but that's not the point, the point is JMM couldn't pay gloves on Floyd,he couldn't catch floyd at all( if you think the extra 7 pounds would have made a difference, after watching that fight(smfh)
Floyd vs Khan.....a fight that could have happened but didn't, seriously, you think Floyd avoided Khan, seriously?
Floyd vs berto......that fight could have happened earlier,but berto got injured, after all berto gave this beautiful sport, you really think he didn't deserve that 5M...... really?? That would be sad
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Nah, Spence would beat any version of Floyd.
Spence is much bigger pressure fighter than Maidana.If maidana was able to give Floyd problems, imagine what would Spence do to him.
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