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A closer look at Manny Pacquiao's resume at 147

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  • #41
    I have previously listed over 30 champions that Manny Pacquiao DIDN'T fight during the start of his career up til 135...so I won't deal with that here.

    You can accept or reject the following. I don't care..

    But, it's the truth..

    His career from 135 on has a lot of smoke and mirrors. There are some decent wins as well.

    A breakdown:

    Diaz- weakest lightweight champ available.

    DLH- washed up and weight drained at 147, a weight he had not been at in almost 8 years.

    Hatton- had already been viciously KOed by Mayweather, was never the same after.

    Cotto- less than a year and a half removed from plaster beating by Margarito and weight drained.

    Clottey- legit win, one of few Manny has at the weight

    Margarito- A farce. Another catchweight, this time at 150 for a 154 lb belt when neither man was ranked in the division. Cheato coming off a beat down by Shane, a year suspected, and a struggle vs a nobody...then forced to come in at 150 instead of 154.

    Mosley- Shane was washed up and showed how much the prior fight vs Mora.

    JMM- 3rd fight. Many thought Juan won in even more dominant fashion than the early two fights which were razor close.

    Tim Bradley- 1st fight between the two. What's interesting is this could have been a Cotto rematch at 154. Manny balked at another super welterweight fight and chose a junior welterweight instead in Bradley. The fight looked like Pacquiao deserved to win. Instead the judges robbed him and awarded Tim the decision. Very shady, and maybe related to Manny's contract status at the time.

    JMM- 4th fights. Manny KOed. Badly. Takes 10 months off.

    Rios- Once again, Manny bypasses full fledged welterweights and chooses a super lightweight for his first fight back from the knockout. Rios is perfect for Manny- slow, not a particularly hard puncher, and underpowered for 147. Easy fight, especially as Rios is coming off grueling match with Alvarado at 140.

    Tim Bradley- rematch of robbery. Legit welter win as Tim now a full fledged welter.

    Chris Algieri- for the third time in five fights, Manny ignores welterweight and chooses a Jr welterweight to fight. This is by far the worst time Pac does this as the division is now loaded. Algieri wasn't expected to offer much competition and he didn't.

    Floyd Mayweather- finally the fight everyone wanted. Major disappointment as Manny didn't show up. Pacquiao claimed a shoulder injury despite no one in his corner ever mentioning any injury during the fight, nor was any particular medical attention paid to the shoulder in question during the fight. It should be noted that Manny threw the same amount of punches from the right side a year and a half later vs Vargas when the shoulder was supposed well healed.

    Bradley- 3rd match. No one needed to see this. Few thought Bradley would win. He didn't. Again, still another fight where fans wondered why Manny wasn't fighting the better, younger welterweights in the division.

    Jesse Vargas- good win at the weight. Solid fighter even if not the best available.


    Jeff Horn- another robbery, again coincidentally when Manny is in a contract situation. One of the worst decisions in a big fight in modern boxing history. Pacquiao didn't deserve to be ripped off like this.

    Lucas Matthysse- washed up. The only thing mysterious about this is how Lucas lasted til the 7th.

    Adrien Broner- decent win for Manny. Broner's low output tailor made for Pac tho. You get the feeling things could have been different if Adrien moves his hands. Credit to Pac tho.

    Keith Thurman- good win for Manny in a fight a lot closer than many think. The asterisk is that this wasn't the same Thurman in there that won belts prior to multiple surgeries. However, Manny was frigging 40+, so you have to give him credit no matter what.

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    • #42
      barrera, morales, chavez sr, dela hoya, garcia's, boxing trainers and others are keep calling pac the GOAT.
      hugh grant hugh grant likes this.

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      • #43
        Originally posted by DaNeutral. View Post

        And that is why your posts are not credible. Your posts have an agenda..
        There is no agenda more hysterical than Pac fan agenda

        ''Anyone who criticizes Pac needs to be banned .....''

        1 credible fight OUT OF HOW MANY ?????

        And let's not mention Thurman's inactivity (he himself said he wasn't 90% but he couldn't say no to the $$$$).

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        • #44
          Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post

          - pacquiao had only 1 fight at lightweight when oscar called him out at 147. pac was big underdog.oscar had a fight at 154. so pac was moving up higher than oscar was moving down.

          - hatton was undefeated at 140 and lineal ring champ and top ten p4p when pac fought him.

          - miguel cotto weighed 146 against clottey so only going down 1 more pound from his previous fight. he made weight easy didnt need to rest on a chair like canelo did against floyd (who was clearly more weakened from his weigh in). cotto got obliterated. those two extra pounds wouldn't have made a difference. get a clue pls.

          - margarito rehydrated 15 lbs against pacquiao who was 148 on fight night. margarito looked strong at weigh in and didn't need to sit down like canelo had to (who was far more weight drained against floyd).

          - mosley was ranked in the top 3 welterweight. would go on to have a competitive fight against canelo making canelo bleed from a cut.

          - marquez was on so much steroids that night thanks to his personal steroid chemist heredia.wasnt dragged up 2 weight classes, out of shape, drinking pee.

          - bradley #3 p4p when pac beat him. ranked #2 welterweight according to tbrb when pac beat him the 3rd time.

          - clottey ranked #5 welterweight. former ibf champ (only stripped of title). yildirim was not ranked top ten at 168, never won a title, ko'ed in three by eubank Jr hahahahahaha. seriously get a clue pls.

          - rios a former 2 weight world champion. pac was coming off a ko loss and his longest layoff at that point in his career.so a tune up. again, yildirim never won a world title, never ranked top ten in any division.

          - algieri was undefeated, a world champion, coming off a big upset win against providnikov.yildirim never won a world title, was not undefeated (ko'ed in three by eubank Jr hahahahahahaha), never ranked top ten.

          - vargas only one loss to bradley who was still top ten p4p, world champ, coming off a impressive ko against undefeated saddam ali. the same ali who would retire cotto.

          - matthysse was 2 weight world champ, never ko'ed in 1 like fielding, high ko percentage, far more experienced at top level than fielding.ranked top ten and wba champ.

          - broner a former 4 weight champ.

          - thurman undefeated world champ, top 3 in division, best resume than spence and crawford at the time. still better welterweight resume than crawford.pac was 40 years old. thurman 10 years younger.

          - pac robbed against horn who was ranked top ten in the division at the time.

          get a clue u ****** punk. pacs welterweight resume alone is better than any current top ten p4p'er resume.
          wow o wow.. that's fire.. pac resume at WW is the best..

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