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  • Who was closer to prime in 2013: Floyd or Canelo?

    Floyd was 36 and in his 5th weight class.

    Canelo was 23 and in his 2nd weight class.

    Which guy was really closer to his prime when they fought?

    Last edited by Golgo 13; 05-13-2021, 09:32 AM.

  • #2
    Floyd’s prime ended in 07 after the Hatton fight or 09 with Marquez

    Alvarez prime began sometime after the Floyd fight

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    • #3
      You're either in your prime or your not. Neither of them were at their best weight classes so who gives a crap. Prime Mayweather vs prime Canelo at their best weight classes is just a fantasy fight.

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      • #4
        Not easy to call when Alvarez primed

        he doesnt have masterful performances against very good or better opponents

        most his fights are competitive

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        • #5
          Originally posted by Pantera_ View Post
          You're either in your prime or your not. Neither of them were at their best weight classes so who gives a crap. Prime Mayweather vs prime Canelo at their best weight classes is just a fantasy fight.
          Alvarez doing better at 168 than 160

          however his opponents at 160 were better: Cotto 3g Jacobs

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          • #6
            Originally posted by Golgo 13 View Post
            Floyd was 36 and in his 5th weight class.

            Canelo was 23 and in his 2nd weight class.

            Which guy was really closer to his prime when they fought?

            Floyd says he was an old man.
            Well this depends on when you would consider these guys "prime". I believe Floyd was just exiting his prime (if not already left) by the time of the Canelo fight. I believe Canelo settled into his prime after the Khan fight, though there's a strong argument he was prime much sooner than that. Just because Canelo has added some wrinkles to his game in the last few years, doesn't mean he's just now starting his prime. I see a lot of people saying he's just now reaching his prime because of "how much better" he's gotten since the first GGG fight, which is ridiculous. With all of that said, I think Floyd was closer to his prime, though at like 40 something fights, its hard to say Canelo wasn't either. Something else I wanted to say, you don't get "prime" Canelo, without his loss to Floyd, so there's really no argument. Today's Canelo= Canelo + Floyd Loss

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            • #7
              Originally posted by Keysandboxing View Post

              Well this depends on when you would consider these guys "prime". I believe Floyd was just exiting his prime (if not already left) by the time of the Canelo fight. I believe Canelo settled into his prime after the Khan fight, though there's a strong argument he was prime much sooner than that. Just because Canelo has added some wrinkles to his game in the last few years, doesn't mean he's just now starting his prime. I see a lot of people saying he's just now reaching his prime because of "how much better" he's gotten since the first GGG fight, which is ridiculous. With all of that said, I think Floyd was closer to his prime, though at like 40 something fights, its hard to say Canelo wasn't either. Something else I wanted to say, you don't get "prime" Canelo, without his loss to Floyd, so there's really no argument. Today's Canelo= Canelo + Floyd Loss
              imo Floyd’s prime

              Ndou-Marquez

              you could see notable dips in his speed between Hatton to Marquez to Mosley to Ortiz

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              • #8
                Floyd's prime ended after Hatton in 2007

                Canelo's started with Trout in 2013. He's peaking now

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by Mushashi View Post
                  Floyd's prime ended after Hatton in 2007

                  Canelo's started with Trout in 2013. He's peaking now
                  Trout too early

                  Alvarez became a MUCH better fighter after the Mayweather match the greatest opponent of his career when it all said and done

                  you learn a lot being in there with guys like Floyd Lara Cotto 3g

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                  • #10
                    perhaps Alvarez prime started with the Kovalev

                    this where he begins knocking out taller bigger men

                    Jacobs fight was good performance too. Alvarez 8-4 a longer dude who can box. He won cleaner than I thought he would

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