168lb Canelo Alvarez vs 168lb Roy Jones jr... How does it go?

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  • darius45
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    168lb Canelo Alvarez vs 168lb Roy Jones jr... How does it go?

    168lb is the best weight for both fighters. Both are at their utmost best at super middleweight. How does the fight breakdown? Does Roy simply try to outbox Canelo like Floyd did albeit with less running but still with the intention of trying to win on points and not with a knockout. Does Roy LET Canelo walk him down? Does he just use his superior reach and speed to outpoint Canelo like he did with Hopkins and Toney? Does Roy get aggressive with Canelo and just completely murk him? It seems like it would take a LOT of hard, crisp perfectly landed power punches to knockout Canelo. He has such a good chin. Even GGG couldn't crack it. But Roy is a different animal and one of the few fighters in history to possess the ability to light up an opponent with POWER punches. Canelo is a good counter puncher however... If he could maintain his composure during one of Roy's trademark flurries, he could possibly land something big in return. But Roy had superhuman reflexes in his prime and there's a good chance he would see any big punches coming before it's too late.

    Some points to consider:

    Canelo at 168lb is more aggressive than he was at 160. He would try to impose his will and use what he sees as his advantage (his power).

    Roy at 168lb is STILL a naturally bigger guy than Canelo with enough power to carry him up through light heavyweight to sweep that division as well.

    I understand Roy would be the huge betting favorite, but the chin and aggressive of Canelo makes this an interesting fantasy match.
    Last edited by darius45; 05-12-2021, 09:29 AM.
  • Thuglife Nelo
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    At 168 lbs I could see them both at a Mexican Restaurant eating delicious tacos of beef discussing why GGG never moved up while at the same time talking about LDBC Haymonite racism.

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    • tonysoprano
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      I think RJJ takes him on points. It would be a GREAT fight though.

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      • TernceBudCharlo
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        Don't forget Canelo's punching power is so hard that he shatters orbital bones and big fighters like Sergey Kovalev run all night terrified of his power. First punch that lands on Roy he would fly out of the ring about 100 feet.

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        • HeadShots
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          glassjaw jones would get his peanut head launched into orbit by a Canelo hook. hardest puncher in sport history. he can punch you in the cheek and burst your eye socket shattering both the cheek and the eye socket. never been done before in prize fighting history.


          Jones is a dead man.

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          • creekrat77
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            Jones would win buy a wide UD. Might even stop him. He'd have Canelo tatted up, huffing and puffing by round 6.
            Last edited by creekrat77; 05-12-2021, 10:01 AM.

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            • Skillz12
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              Canelo chin checks chinny Roy.

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              • Richard Hamilton
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                Jones would absolutely DESTROY him

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                • StoptheFight
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                  I think Canelo is a great fighter, already a HOFer, and is the current P4P number 1 fight. Having said all of that - There is NO CHANCE he beats a prime RJJ at 168.
                  First, nobody historically is beating Jones at 168. Period.
                  Second, this is a horrible style match-up for Canelo; Fast fighters who can fight on the outside have taken many rounds off Canelo.

                  Few examples:
                  Lara - Not only did Lara frustrate and outbox Canelo in many points of the fight. A large portion believe that Lara outright won the fight. Regardless of where you stand on who won, we can all agree that the fight was competitive and Lara was able to frustrate and take many rounds by using his feet.

                  Saunders - Yes, Canelo knocked him out. But I had it 4-4 going into the 9th and Saunders had a pretty easy time jabbing and moving around Canelo in many of those rounds. Saunders' feet were considerably faster than Canelo's and if that punch doesn't break the orbital bone we would see the fight continue to be close with Saunders having a good deal of success (as long as he keeps moving laterally behind the jab).

                  Kovalev - There is a bit of historical revision going on with this fight. Canelo did not dominate and KO Kovalev. He was out-jabbed for large portions of the fight and at the time of the KO the fight was close from what I remember. Of course Canelo was coming on and closing the gap with Kovalev but that was already the 11th round. For 10 rounds Kovalev was able to keep Canelo from landing just by moving and throwing shots from the outside.

                  Golovkin 2 - Golovkin nearly beat Canelo by boxing backwards in this fight and he was probably slower than Canelo at this point!

                  RJJ at 168 is considerably fast than any of those fighters. Canelo would have trouble following Jones around the ring. He would be bleeding rounds all fight long and I could see Jones winning a wide UD 117-111 type of a fight.

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                  • JakeTheBoxer
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                    RJJ is the man from the other times. he was a huge 168 guy and he also had a style to beat Canelo.

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