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  • #11
    This thread would be a hundred comments and counting with everyone labelling AJ a big chinny duck if the shoe was on the other foot.

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

      Joshua is willing to sign the contract, but Fury won't. Joshua is the "business man" though. Why didn't they ask for this at the beginning? Because they know it's BS, they had to think of a reason to pull out. Looks like vast majority of fans see right through it though judging by the comments section on his twitter. Gypsy Queen is being exposed.
      It definitely looks like they’re throwing up obstacles.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by KP1 View Post
        This thread would be a hundred comments and counting with everyone labelling AJ a big chinny duck if the shoe was on the other foot.
        100%

        I don't know how many times we have to see Tyson Fury doing Tyson Fury things for people to acknowledge it. He won a belt over a year ago, hasn't got near a ring since, has all sorts of reasons for not fighting the big fight in front of him... sound familiar?

        In the meantime there's a guy in AJ who has always talked about being undisputed, has consistently followed that path, is clearly making offers for undisputed and the response on here is "he's ducking".

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

          The fighters guarantee is by the promoter. The promoter take on the financial risk. We know this. So just stop the BS.
          Site fee’s are very different to booking an arena where the promoter takes on the risk. It’s a totally different business and legal structure.

          go and learn about the difference and then come back. You’re uneducated on the matter, your post makes it obvious.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post

            Site fee’s are very different to booking an arena where the promoter takes on the risk. It’s a totally different business and legal structure.

            go and learn about the difference and then come back. You’re uneducated on the matter, your post makes it obvious.
            No it isn't. The fighters guarantee is still backed by the promoter. If the money don't go through it would be Hearn losing money not Fury. Go do some ****ing research.

            You're a Fury knob jockey so you want defend your man like he's your husband.

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            • #16
              Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

              No it isn't. The fighters guarantee is still backed by the promoter. If the money don't go through it would be Hearn losing money not Fury. Go do some ****ing research.

              You're a Fury knob jockey so you want defend your man like he's your husband.
              You’re way off the Mark with your double digit IQ.

              The promoter works for the fighter, not the other way around. That’s why fighters have managers too, as a separate entity to the promoter. So the manager and fighter has to ensure the promoter can guarantee the money of the event they’re hosting, which in this instance is being sourced via a site fee.

              And as it stands, apparently there’s no guarantee of the site fee.

              Now I’ve put it simple form for you, do you understand?

              it’s not like a promoter booking Manchester arena themselves and putting on an event and selling tickets . Manchester arena don’t pay the promoter to bring a fight there. The promoter takes the risk and that’s why they guarantee the fighters at the risk of taking a hit.

              This is a totally different format where the site fee bankrolls the entire event, not the promoter, hence why you need a guarantee.
              Last edited by deathofaclown; 05-11-2021, 06:22 AM.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by deathofaclown View Post

                You’re way off the Mark with your double digit IQ.

                The promoter works for the fighter, not the other way around. That’s why fighters have managers too, as a separate entity to the promoter. So the manager and fighter has to ensure the promoter can guarantee the money of the event they’re hosting, which in this instance is being sourced via a site fee.

                And as it stands, apparently there’s no guarantee of the site fee.

                Now I’ve put it simple form for you, do you understand?
                The promoter works for the promoter. The promoter guarantees the money, they take all the financial risk. We all know Matchroom is worth a lot more than Fury's guarantee. If Hearn get's paid doesn't concern Fury, unless you want to have an excuse to duck. Like i said stop talking BS.


                Your boy is full of ****. So are you. Didn't you welch on a account bet?

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

                  The fighters guarantee is by the promoter. The promoter take on the financial risk. We know this. So just stop the BS.
                  Not with a fight of this magnitude mate, they are all waiting on the money guaranteed on in their bank or escrow. Without that they cannot announce anything. Why are you caught up in the "Am not after fame or money" thing with Fury? No one believes that not even his wife Paris Fury (Denium).

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Ray* View Post

                    Not with a fight of this magnitude mate, they are all waiting on the money guaranteed on in their bank or escrow. Without that they cannot announce anything. Why are you caught up in the "Am not after fame or money" thing with Fury? No one believes that not even his wife Paris Fury (Denium).
                    Makes no difference to Fury. The promoter pays the fighters, not the Saudi's. If the money doesn't come through that would be very unfortunate for Hearn but he would still be required to pay Fury's guarantee.

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett View Post

                      The promoter works for the promoter. The promoter guarantees the money, they take all the financial risk. We all know Matchroom is worth a lot more than Fury's guarantee. If Hearn get's paid doesn't concern Fury, unless you want to have an excuse to duck. Like i said stop talking BS.


                      Your boy is full of ****. So are you. Didn't you welch on a account bet?
                      Nope, the other guy didn’t want an account bet in the end.

                      it’s Irrelevant anyway as you’re way off the mark on this one.

                      usually the promoter bankrolls the event and that’s you’re guarantee as a fighter, it’s a simple two way contract. But in these rare cases, the site fee bankrolls the event and the promoter essentially works for them funding it, they’re basically being hired by a third party.

                      This time the money is coming from a third party in the Middle East.

                      If the site fee is not guaranteed, then the fight is always at risk of not happening. So all parties should want that money going into an escrow account before committing.

                      it’s very simple. You’re trying to compare it to a regular boxing event and how the business side of it is structured when it’s something completely different.

                      the promoters may host the event, but the people putting up the site fee OWN the event. Hence why the promoter in this instance doesn’t guarantee the fighters, the site fee does. The promoters this time are essentially hired to host the event and take a cut, they don’t own the event like they usually do.

                      it’s a very different format.
                      Last edited by deathofaclown; 05-11-2021, 06:45 AM.

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