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Why is Bud p4p#1-#3 but Jermell isn't even on the list & Loma is too?Why is Fury there?

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  • #21
    Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

    So you’re saying Tony Harrison and Jeison Rosario are elite fighters?
    They were dangerous fighters when Mell beat them. I keep saying the same thing, I'm not saying Mell deserves to be ranked #1-#3, I'm saying that he belongs on the list for what hes doing,& I'm saying that Bud hasn't fought anyone for 4 yrs straight

    Bud being #1 is contradictory to Mell not being in top 10

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    • #22
      Originally posted by kushking View Post

      They were dangerous fighters when Mell beat them. I keep saying the same thing, I'm not saying Mell deserves to be ranked #1-#3, I'm saying that he belongs on the list for what hes doing,& I'm saying that Bud hasn't fought anyone for 4 yrs straight

      Bud being #1 is contradictory to Mell not being in top 10
      They weren’t elite fighters though and never will be. Jermell has never beaten an elite fighter, his best win is Harrison and he struggled in both fights.

      Crawford’s best win is probably Postol who is of a similar level to Harrison, if not better, and Crawford dominated.

      Crawford’s resume isn’t great but it’s the way he’s beaten guys that makes him one of the very best in the sport.

      For me personally, Crawford surpasses Jermell both in terms of talent and accolades. Charlo is a good fighter but he’s simply not on that level. P4P is obviously subjective but I think you’ll find the vast majority of boxing fans/pundits etc feel Crawford deservedly ranks far above Jermell in terms of P4P.
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      • #23
        Originally posted by RJJ-94-02=GOAT View Post

        They weren’t elite fighters though and never will be. Jermell has never beaten an elite fighter, his best win is Harrison and he struggled in both fights.

        Crawford’s best win is probably Postol who is of a similar level to Harrison, if not better, and Crawford dominated.

        Crawford’s resume isn’t great but it’s the way he’s beaten guys that makes him one of the very best in the sport.

        For me personally, Crawford surpasses Jermell both in terms of talent and accolades. Charlo is a good fighter but he’s simply not on that level. P4P is obviously subjective but I think you’ll find the vast majority of boxing fans/pundits etc feel Crawford deservedly ranks far above Jermell in terms of P4P.
        Once again,how can Bud be #1 but Mell not even on the list? (This isn't about which one is better, it's about the fact Mell isn't on the list at all is rediculous if they have Bud #1(Bud beating who he did at 140 was yrs ago now,& Mells currently beating whoever has belts who can punch his lights out if not careful(the fact hes going after Castano shows his wanting smoke compared to so many others who talk a good game & look skillful vs weak punchers

        In other words can you say Bud is 10 rankings better than Mell?
        Last edited by kushking; 05-06-2021, 03:57 PM.

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        • #24
          Jermell gets outboxed like every fight he has now. He has great power though and generally speaking fights smart - he knows he doesn't want to get into a boxing match, and instead wants to go for the KO.

          But when you think pfp, you think boxing skills. Jermell is probably not one of the top 10 guys to come to mind for that.

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          • #25
            Originally posted by Boxing-1013 View Post
            Jermell gets outboxed like every fight he has now. He has great power though and generally speaking fights smart - he knows he doesn't want to get into a boxing match, and instead wants to go for the KO.

            But when you think pfp, you think boxing skills. Jermell is probably not one of the top 10 guys to come to mind for that.
            Hes a much better boxer than his brother whom everyone says Canelo NEEDS to fight though. (Hes the "boxer" brother of the 2) I think Mell has been fighting opponents who were themselves proven by upsetting the favorite by ko,that means he should be on the list,they got Tyson Fury at the top ffs

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            • #26
              Originally posted by kushking View Post

              Once again,how can Bud be #1 but Mell not even on the list? (This isn't about which one is better, it's about the fact Mell isn't on the list at all is rediculous if they have Bud #1(Bud beating who he did at 140 was yrs ago now,& Mells currently beating whoever has belts who can punch his lights out if not careful(the fact hes going after Castano shows his wanting smoke compared to so many others who talk a good game & look skillful vs weak punchers

              In other words can you say Bud is 10 rankings better than Mell?
              Personally I have Crawford #2 and yeah he’s 10+ ratings better than Jermell IMO.

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              • #27
                bud fighting so many bums.. that makes him superior than the others.

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                • #28
                  Originally posted by kushking View Post

                  Hes a much better boxer than his brother whom everyone says Canelo NEEDS to fight though. (Hes the "boxer" brother of the 2) I think Mell has been fighting opponents who were themselves proven by upsetting the favorite by ko,that means he should be on the list,they got Tyson Fury at the top ffs
                  Fury has higher highs and not as low lows as Jermell. Similar with Jermall. Jermall doesn't have a bad loss on his resume and has fought at a higher weight division for a bit as well.

                  Jermell looks number 1 at 154. I don't mind someone putting him top ten pfp. But he never really comes into mind for that for me because he gets outboxed badly by guys like John Jackson etc

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                  • #29
                    Originally posted by famicommander View Post

                    He is not the lineal champion until he beats Castano. They are #1 and #2 at TBRB and BoxRec and have all the belts between the two of them.

                    Beating Rosario did not make Charlo lineal because they were not both consensus top 2 at the time they fought.
                    Jermell is lineal, The Ring has him as lineal. Castano barely got a belt lol. Try again.

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                    • #30
                      Originally posted by kushking View Post

                      You jackass,kd means knocked DOWN,not Knocked out

                      Do you even know the meaning of"life & death"? It means he was in a war with Benevidez before he toppled him over like a totem poll.

                      As I said, you constantly change up what I say,& misread what I say to fit your narrative. You can't show me where I've ever sht on Mell for fighting bums like I have at times done Mall. You can't yet you don't admit you fos for acting like I jumped on Mells nuts because of him saying good about Canelo(Mall has said plenty good things about Canelo & shown respect,I still criticize him for fighting cans & constantly say his brothers the real lions only not him.
                      No, you just make **** up and then try and back out of it. He was not in a war with Benavidez, it was an easy win. Who the f*** cares that Mean Machine knocked him down, many greats have gotten badly hurt or knocked down, he came back and dominated the end of the fight to brutally finish him. He dominated burns too, you're the one making up bull**** trying to discredit Bud. And it's all because he's a threat to your guy.

                      You the one putting words into my mouth I aint never said **** about what you said about Mell in the past, I just saying you are hyping up up now cos what he said about Canelo. I really doubt you'd be saying good things about Mell if he still spoke the truth about Canelo Alvarez or people thought he was a threat to Canelo's p4p spot.
                      Last edited by TernceBudCharlo; 05-06-2021, 05:22 PM.

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