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Why is Bud p4p#1-#3 but Jermell isn't even on the list & Loma is too?Why is Fury there?

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  • Why is Bud p4p#1-#3 but Jermell isn't even on the list & Loma is too?Why is Fury there?

    This sort of thing just proves how biased & dumb boxing is. These p4ps are a joke imo, you can argue that Mell is a bum or that he fought bums, but he's fighting all the smoke & Bud hasn't.

    Same thing goes for why beltless current Loma is p4p still, or how in the flyin fck is Fury top p4p?
    Last edited by kushking; 05-06-2021, 04:05 PM.

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    Bud was lineal king at 135, undisputed lineal king at 140, and has a belt at 147. His resume at 147 leaves a lot to be desired but he literally cleaned out two divisions before he got there.

    Charlo has 3 belts and the Ring title but he needs to beat Castano to be the lineal, undisputed champion.

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    • #3
      Originally posted by famicommander View Post
      Bud was lineal king at 135, undisputed lineal king at 140, and has a belt at 147. His resume at 147 leaves a lot to be desired but he literally cleaned out two divisions before he got there.

      Charlo has 3 belts and the Ring title but he needs to beat Castano to be the lineal, undisputed champion.
      Bud never in his career has gone on a run resembling what Mell is doing. For years I've heard"p4p is about eye test" to justify Bud & Loma being at the top, but now you trying to say the exact opposite as to why Mell isn't even on the list but Bud whos looked rubbish at times vs lower tier guys & whos faced nothing but huge underdogs at ww and 140,is somehow at the top of the list?

      Bud looked bad against opponents he was a huge favorite over,like Burns whom he had to clinch at every opportunity to nullify & win on pts. Mell is fighting guys who can knock him tf out & come out on top til now through grit & never say die attitude.

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      • #4
        Originally posted by kushking View Post

        Bud never in his career has gone on a run resembling what Mell is doing. For years I've heard"p4p is about eye test" to justify Bud & Loma being at the top, but now you trying to say the exact opposite as to why Mell isn't even on the list but Bud whos looked rubbish at times vs lower tier guys & whos faced nothing but huge underdogs at ww and 140,is somehow at the top of the list?

        Bud looked bad against opponents he was a huge favorite over,like Burns whom he had to clinch at every opportunity to nullify & win on pts. Mell is fighting guys who can knock him tf out & come out on top til now through grit & never say die attitude.
        Pound for pound is about who is the best fighter regardless of weight class. One of the biggest ways that can be proven is a fighter winning titles in multiple weight classes.

        Crawford:
        135 - WBO, Ring Magazine, Lineal
        140 - WBA (Super), WBC, IBF, WBO, Ring Magazine, Lineal
        147 - WBO

        Charlo:
        154 - WBC (lost, then regained), WBA (Super) IBF, Ring Magazine

        If he beats Castano he will have fully unified one division and become lineal for the first time.

        Bud became lineal in two divisions, fully unified a division, and won a belt in a third division. And he has never lost.

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        • #5
          Man you need to stop the crazy talk, mell my guy but he lost to Harrison and could have lost to Vanes. Bud has never been in a close fight with anyone, get out of here with that bull****.

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          • #6
            Jermell Charlo should definitely be in the top 10 p4p. He has 3 belts, a lineal champion, and is one of the few active boxers actually fight his contemporaries on a consistent basis.
            kushking kushking siablo14 siablo14 like this.

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            • #7
              Originally posted by kushking View Post

              Bud never in his career has gone on a run resembling what Mell is doing. For years I've heard"p4p is about eye test" to justify Bud & Loma being at the top, but now you trying to say the exact opposite as to why Mell isn't even on the list but Bud whos looked rubbish at times vs lower tier guys & whos faced nothing but huge underdogs at ww and 140,is somehow at the top of the list?

              Bud looked bad against opponents he was a huge favorite over,like Burns whom he had to clinch at every opportunity to nullify & win on pts. Mell is fighting guys who can knock him tf out & come out on top til now through grit & never say die attitude.
              The only reason you're saying that about Mell is because he ****** up to Canelo, if he'd talked **** about Canelo you'd be saying he fought bums. Just so you know I don't think he really feel that way, he just got sick and tired of all the Canelo fans harassing him for speaking the truth on Canelo, so now he just tells lies and says he's the best.

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              • #8
                Bud shouldn't be top ten pfp until he beats spence. Actually that's a little harsh. He isn'ttop p 5 until he beats spence

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                • #9
                  Originally posted by El Más Loco View Post
                  Jermell Charlo should definitely be in the top 10 p4p. He has 3 belts, a lineal champion, and is one of the few active boxers actually fight his contemporaries on a consistent basis.
                  He is not the lineal champion until he beats Castano. They are #1 and #2 at TBRB and BoxRec and have all the belts between the two of them.

                  Beating Rosario did not make Charlo lineal because they were not both consensus top 2 at the time they fought.

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                  • #10
                    Originally posted by TernceBudCharlo View Post

                    The only reason you're saying that about Mell is because he ****** up to Canelo, if he'd talked **** about Canelo you'd be saying he fought bums. Just so you know I don't think he really feel that way, he just got sick and tired of all the Canelo fans harassing him for speaking the truth on Canelo, so now he just tells lies and says he's the best.
                    You dumbass I have never been a hater of Mell,what is it with you & always putting words in my mouth? I ALWAYS call it how I see it,& I ALWAYS give credit where I think it's due,ask anyone on here if I've ever been badmouthing Mell the way I sometimes do Mall(I have always said I wanted Canelo to fight both)
                    Last edited by kushking; 05-06-2021, 02:53 PM.

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