Comments Thread For: Arreola: This Andy Ruiz Would Easily Knock Out AJ; They Didn't Expect This Chris Arreola

[daggum]

Nope, first of all, Stiverne was that time 36 years old, he was older than Samuel Peter and he won the heavyweight title 6 years later... Peter was that time already practically retired..
We must see in which shape will be Ruiz when he got older...

Stiverne was in his prime better fighter than Andy Ruíz. He sparred with each other and lot of people said that Stiverne seemed to be better.
Wilder could outpoint him because he was too tall for him, but i think Wilder could in his prime knockout Ruíz in 6 rounds.

Stiverne had very fast hands he could hit at least so strong than Ruíz, he had a iron chin, but he could use the ring better, he was a bit more flexibel.

Ruiz has two short legs, altough he did lost many pounds now, but his movement wasn't much better, because his body-type.

based on what? and the classic "a lot of people are saying..." love it! ruiz is far more accomplished, fantasy stirverne doenst come close

[daggum]

Stiverne, in his prime was outboxed by Wilder.

Ponder that. Let it sink in. Now Wilder is a dangerous, TNT packed fighter who is underrated for his chin. But... he OUT BOXED Stiverne. Out pointed him. Easily. In 12 rounds.
No Stiverne was not underrated. He was a "B" level HW who won a title which means next to nothing in this day and age of belts and worthless organizations. Arroela is also a strictly "B" level fighter. Ruiz is better than either of those two. Against Arroela he only proved he can shake off a good hit and get over ring rust. But let's not lose sight on reality here.

arreola was ranked 9th and that somehow vaulted stirverne up to #2 in the rankings where wilder fans pretended like he was some top guy when in reality he wasnt becase arreola himself never beat anyone ranked. weird how boxing works.

[Oldskoolg]

Bermane was legit when compared with this crop of HWs, he just never had the stamina to apply his craft in a sustained fashion (slower than Andy IMO). I've noticed that few can maintain their endurance/stamina once they go past 235. At 235+ output drops and in critical moments that can sway the outcome of the fight. Since slipping punches makes people call fighters boring or runners, lots of guys add weight to better absorb punches lol.

Stivernes career suffered the same reasons Tua’s did, no weight discipline. Stiverne, Bowe, Tua defeated their careers at the all you can eat buffets. When they were in shape they were hot heavyweights

[Oldskoolg]

Stiverne was better in his prime than Ruíz now.

I would be curious what could Ruiz do against an older and inactive Wilder than Stiverne in 2015.

But Ruiz try to run against the 43 years old Luis Ortiz... (then wait until Wilder got 37 years old..) That's Ruiz mentality

He’s just trying to soil Stiverne as a way to attack wilder...that’s just what these Edward Hearn bots do

[Monzon99]

stiverne was a hired patsy, he threw both fights to wilder. don damn king even said at the press conf for wilder vs molina (his fighter, his bonus for getting stiverne to sell the belt to wilder) even said stiverne "transferred the title to wilder" - it was a business transaction. if you think it was a real fight you are a very dumb mudderfuqqer. stiverne is like vaughn bean and trevor bryan and michael moorer, incapable of making big money. zero charisma.

[Monzon99]

haymon's pbc empire is a total fraud wwf in house sham. they're all protected pretenders and business associates who stage fake fights with each other and are protected from facing Arum or Hearn or outside supeior talent. haymon knows spence will get killed by Crawford and so it won't ever happen. whenever haymon knows his pbc pretender will lose outside in house he blocks the fight by any means necessary unless he gets forced into it like by les mooves who forced floyd vs pac, but moonves can't force floyd vs pac 2.

[Monzon99]

what you all have to realize is boxing is a double world, the truth side and the propaganda side. the reality truty is different than what you are presented to see. nothing is ever as it seems.

rare is the mind that can discern what is carefully concealed in. most people just can't see beneath the surface. they only see the face value and can't think for themselves.

i find it unbelievable some idiots on here actually think stiverne tried to beat wilder. lol. you think haymon would risk his pet project wilder ever losing to a 38 year old zero draw stiverne? no he rigged both fights to build up wilder. but wilder failed to turn into a draw. so they had to fight fury, they rigged fury in the first right but because wilder was a zero draw they could not rig the second fight.

wilder had to duck the $120m vs Joshua because haymon knew he had no chance and that would be checkmate. but haymon is dumb too, he believed wilder had a shot to beat Fury in a real fight LOL LOL LOL LOL LOL

[Monzon99]

stiverne is a zero draw hired patsy, just like eric molina, vaughn bean, trevor bryan, frans botha, michael moorer, dominic breazeale, szpilka, travis kaufman, arreola, moorer was used to give the belt to foreman because foreman could SELL.

[Jkp]

Ruiz isn't good. It's just that your fat Tequila drinking gatekeeping ass is just old. Every heavyweight who is ranked in the top 10 or higher would fuck him up.

Not true. Did you watch AJ vs Ruiz , 1 and 2?

[Jkp]

stiverne is a zero draw hired patsy, just like eric molina, vaughn bean, trevor bryan, frans botha, michael moorer, dominic breazeale, szpilka, travis kaufman, arreola, moorer was used to give the belt to foreman because foreman could SELL.

Botha? He went toe to toe with a prime mike Tyson. He's from a completely different generation, with much better fighters