Joshua lost to Fury on May 1, 2021

[DaNeutral.]

AJ lost to Fury the day he met him in 2009.

He met a man who took his shots but kept coming before McCraken pulled him out of sparring, then AJ turned up to Fury's next fight as a literal fanboy.

He's mentally beaten. Long ago.

AJ Vs Wilder is the real fight

Fury is levels ahead

Is that the same sparring where years ago Fury said Joshua had given him a bit of a pasting and he wast afraid to admit it but once they became serious competitors a few years ago he added to the story that he let him do it then schooled him around the ring?

[deathofaclown]

There is no reality in which Joshua is a bad fighter. He's also probably almost entirely responsible for bringing the heavyweight division back from complete obscurity. He's been a net positive for boxing. But I will never be deluded enough to think he's the best out there.

But Fury is what I think the UK should look at as the future of boxing. Dynamic, rangey, fluid. The problem with the super heavyweight era is that as the fighters have gotten bigger and more musclebound the pure boxing has gotten significantly poorer. I like Wilder, but there is a reason why someone with such insanely poor fundamentals can likely wipe out literallly 95% of the division. Its because said division is lacking, he should have been punished long before Fury for his penchant for head hunting and being lazy with his effective jab. Fury, as much of a lying pillock I think he is, represents the dire need for British boxing styles to come out of the ****ing dark ages and integrate more focus on upper body movement, head movement, positioning and footwork.

I agree

I think the division is poor overall, I mean I really like Joe Joyce and I actually think he could be one of the top of the division which in a way doesn’t say much for the division. It’s lacking so much in talent and ability that a guy like Joe Joyce could be one of the best fighters on his jab and chin alone.

and you’ve got the likes of Chisora approaching his 40’s with 11 losses floating around the top 10 or 15, still giving fits to Usyk and Parker. I think it says more about the quality of the division.

go look what happened to Chisora in the second Fury fight. He faced a guy with some boxing brain and skills, received an uncompetitive one sided beating and stopped on his stool. So it can be done. If the other heavyweights had half of the talent of Fury, they should be dealing with this late 30’s Chisora.

the depth just isn’t there. I think Fury stands alone. As for the rest of the fighters, It would be a brilliant division in terms of competitive fights if they fought each other, mostly because none of them stand out among each other.

[Robbie Barrett]

No TBH, because the most celebrated crossover fighters in America in the last five years are (in no order) Canelo, Mayweather, Pacquio, McGregor and maybe Khabib. 4 out of 5 of them aren't even American. They respect talent, Brits largely dont. Hence why Fury spent so long being considered a joke even after he beat Wlad.

But you're the perfect example of the typical casual boxing lemming that this country has too many of. Absolutely zero eye for skillset or quality, your fanboyism is entirely based on the country where a woman's fanny was when said boxer fell out of it.

I think i'll bookmark this one. Such an arrogant wanker deserves to be shown as the know nothing he truly is. Judges fighters by how popular they are in America.

Already showed you know nothing about me and the fighters i support. I'm actually a fan of more Americans than Brits.