Canelo Alvarez Explains Testing Positive For Clenbuterol in Graham Bensinger Interview! Believe Him?

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  • kafkod
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    #31
    Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

    How would he know the meat is clenbuterol free? You're relying on what the farmer/seller/restaurant says.

    Meat is a great source of protein and has many vitamins and minerals. It's required if you want to be in peak physical condition. That's why....... and it tastes great.

    Even WADA thinks it's unrealistic for athletes to avoid clenbuterol meat that's why they changed their threshold.
    There are accredited clen free butchers, restaurants, fast food vendors, etc in Mexico. Athletes are required to use them - AKA, take reasonable precautions to avoid accidental ingestion - or face the consequences.

    And VADA hadn't yet changed the threshold when Canelo got popped. So I repeat ... if he really believed he couldn't eat a piece of meat without testing positive, then why the **** would he eat meat while training for a fight with VADA testing?

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    • Thuglife Nelo
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      #32
      Originally posted by kafkod

      There are accredited clen free butchers, restaurants, fast food vendors, etc in Mexico. Athletes are required to use them - AKA, take reasonable precautions to avoid accidental ingestion - or face the consequences.

      And VADA hadn't yet changed the threshold when Canelo got popped. So I repeat ... if he really believed he couldn't eat a piece of meat without testing positive, then why the **** would he eat meat while training for a fight with VADA testing?
      Canelo should’ve eaten wild boar testicles instead or nasal inhalers cutting 30lbs in a month!

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      • tritium_arma
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        #33
        Tainted meat. The oldest excuse in the book.

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        • daggum
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          #34
          comprehension is at all time low. its still a PED. wada says that themselves. they only added an exemption if you can prove it came from tainted meat. why are people pretending like its now not a ped? its still the same exact thing. tainted meat or ped. if you believe canelo ok, dont think most people do and of course anyone who tests positive is going to say its the meat. even oj said he didnt do it

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            #35
            Originally posted by tritium_arma
            Tainted meat. The oldest excuse in the book.
            Well WADA loves that excuse then since they amended Clenbuterol in 2019!

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            • Thuglife Nelo
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              #36
              Originally posted by daggum
              comprehension is at all time low. its still a PED. wada says that themselves. they only added an exemption if you can prove it came from tainted meat. why are people pretending like its now not a ped? its still the same exact thing. tainted meat or ped. if you believe canelo ok, dont think most people do and of course anyone who tests positive is going to say its the meat. even oj said he didnt do it
              What do you mean WADA says that themselves. Before 2019 Clenbuterol never had a threshold. They now allow 2ng of Clen for any meat contamination / non negligence incident

              Bandito Vargas was exonerated for 1.2ng before Canelo. Canelo had .6ng

              Clenbuterol is not exclusive to boxing

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              • Chrismart
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                #37
                I don't believe him.

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                • Citizen Koba
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                  #38
                  Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo
                  Been telling you guys forever.

                  Many of you still don’t understand that WADA amended Clenbuterol. Dan Rafael reported that too but the scene has always had animosity towards Oscar so Canelo was part of that click. That’s why industry didn’t do any favors for Canelo because of GBP affiliation. Now that industry has seen what’s been going on the things will change. The only problem is that there are hoard of Hearn haters so it affects Canelo too.

                  Most fans are clueless about scientific research I guess. Some fans actually believe that WADA (whom oversea the Olympics) change the rule for Canelo? Lol.
                  WADA changed the ruling in the light of the fact that it's virtually impossible to actually prove deliberate Clenbuterol abuse in those countries (Mexico, Guatamala and China) where it's commonly used in livestock. Their ruling in no way proves Canelo is innocent of deliberate use. We really got to have this conversation again?

                  Whether Canelo did or didn't deliberately use Clenbuterol remains unproven and the WADA ruling changes that in no way at all.

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                  • Citizen Koba
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                    #39
                    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                    What do you mean WADA says that themselves. Before 2019 Clenbuterol never had a threshold. They now allow 2ng of Clen for any meat contamination / non negligence incident

                    Bandito Vargas was exonerated for 1.2ng before Canelo. Canelo had .6ng

                    Clenbuterol is not exclusive to boxing
                    They don't 'allow' it. It's still treated as a PED and still scheduled everywhere... it's just in those few countries where there is reasonable possibility of an adverse finding being a result of meat contamination they've decided not to action below certain thresholds because it's impossible to prove one way or another with current testing methods. When an effective discriminatory test comes on line they will almost certainly remove the threshold again.

                    Once again this doesn't in any way prove that Mexican, Guatamalan or Chinese athletes below threshold didn't attempt to cheat merely that it can't be proven they did, nor does it in any way suggest that WADA no longer consider Clenbuterol doping to be a serious offense since athletes from other countries can still be banned for any detected amount.

                    And once again for about the 4th or 5th time of telling you the WADA threshold is not 2ng/ml but 5ng/ml...

                    https://www.wada-ama.org/sites/defau...tice_final.pdf

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                    • deathofaclown
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                      #40
                      Originally posted by Robbie Barrett

                      If he was ycling and didn;t believe he would be tested he'd have more than ****ing trace amounts.
                      Not necessarily

                      Mistiming it could certainly mean you only
                      have trace amounts, depending at what point they tested. He could’ve expected to have it out of his system by the time he went to USA and get tested and it almost was, but they went to Mexico to test like never before , And he still had traces of it and got caught.

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