EPIC!! Canelo FINALLY Opens up on Clenbuterol and Educates the HATERS!

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  • Inspired
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    #21
    Originally posted by kafkod

    I stopped listening inside the first minute, as soon as I heard that lying POS say that all meat in Mexico has clenbuterol, so if anybody eats a piece of meat in Mexico then goes and gets tested, they will test positive for clenbuterol. That is obviously not true, otherwise virtually every damned athlete in Mexico would have tested positive by now.

    It also begs the question ... if what he said there was true, then why the **** did he eat meat while training for a fight?

    He was caught cheating because Abel Sanchez insisted on VADA starting earlier than usual for the second GGG fight,

    End of.

    you know what's dodgy? it happens to Canelo, suddenly the testing agencies changed their rule and now you can get away from it if you provide evidence you were in mexico at the time!!

    it didnt used to be like that. Erik Morales got banned for 2 yrs in 2013 for it. he was still allowed to fight Danny Garcia, only because Garcia wanted to fight on.
    The United States Anti-Doping Agency has issued a two-year ban to former four-division titleholder Erik Morales of Mexico for his multiple drug test failures preceding an Oct. 20 rematch against junior welterweight titlist Danny Garcia at the Barclays Cen


    it seems dodgy to me since, as we both agreed..if it was common for mexican meat to be tainted, they would ALL have failed by now. plus, there doesnt seem to be any sense of responsibility. as long as they were in mexico and can provide evidence, they'll get away with it.
    smh.

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      #22
      Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

      You don’t know what you’re talking about. The context is VADA whom abide by the WADA list. The fact that you assume all boxers or athletes from Mexico enroll or can afford VADA testing is very premature thinking. VADA is not a standardized system. Therefore, you would never hear of the reports in Mexico
      im talking about mexican boxers fighting in the US and on usada/wada/vada testing.
      there are many mexican fighters who spend time in mexico and are tested, pass their tests. if it was as canelo said, 'everyone knows mexican meat is tainted' then there would be many more positive test results than they are.

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        #23
        Originally posted by Inspired


        you know what's dodgy? it happens to Canelo, suddenly the testing agencies changed their rule and now you can get away from it if you provide evidence you were in mexico at the time!!

        it didnt used to be like that. Erik Morales got banned for 2 yrs in 2013 for it. he was still allowed to fight Danny Garcia, only because Garcia wanted to fight on.
        The United States Anti-Doping Agency has issued a two-year ban to former four-division titleholder Erik Morales of Mexico for his multiple drug test failures preceding an Oct. 20 rematch against junior welterweight titlist Danny Garcia at the Barclays Cen


        it seems dodgy to me since, as we both agreed..if it was common for mexican meat to be tainted, they would ALL have failed by now. plus, there doesnt seem to be any sense of responsibility. as long as they were in mexico and can provide evidence, they'll get away with it.
        smh.
        WADA isn’t Mexican nor does it make any sense for it to be favorable to boxing. Clenbuterol has been investigated over a decade SPECIFICALLY for tainted meat adverse findings. The VADA CEO said this herself. You also forgot that Francisco Vargas tested positive for Clen and was exonerated by VADA and had double of Canelo’s findings. Vargas’ tests were even closer to his fight. The CSAC Foster said he was “advised” that it was “such a low amount.” Guess who consulted the CSAC for Vargas’ fight? VADa!!!

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        • Thuglife Nelo
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          #24
          Originally posted by Inspired

          im talking about mexican boxers fighting in the US and on usada/wada/vada testing.
          there are many mexican fighters who spend time in mexico and are tested, pass their tests. if it was as canelo said, 'everyone knows mexican meat is tainted' then there would be many more positive test results than they are.
          Your tense is all fumbled! Lol. “Everyone knows” is not what Canelo said. He’s speaking future tense after Clen was amended. Canelo never said in 2018 that “everyone knows” nor did anyone else say that. It was only in 2019 after WADA amended Clen that everyone started acknowledging the reality. I was the only boxing channel on YouTube in 2018 that corroborated everything before 2019 because I know the politics! Nobody liked Sulaiman nor Oscar. When you’re surrounded with those guys it was obvious it would Happen to Canelo
          Last edited by Thuglife Nelo; 04-29-2021, 12:29 AM.

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          • BodyBagz
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            #25
            Canelo Alvarez's group says the negative results of a hair follicle test, provided to ESPN, demonstrate that the boxer wasn't intentionally taking the banned substance which led to the cancellation of his May 5 bout against Gennady Golovkin.


            Haters don't care because facts are useless to them

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            • PRchamp
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              #26
              Originally posted by Lomadeaux
              The only issue with this is that GGG beat him in the first fight by a very strong margin. The second fight very close, but was a clear victory for GGG. This is what almost the entire boxing world thinks. Somewhere between 10 and 15% think Canelo won the second fight. Somewhere between 1 and 4% think he won the first.
              Those 10-15% are all on these forums. I sayto be fair GGG won the first fight and in the rematch Canelo won by a round but it could easily been a draw but they used that play in their first fight.

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              • kafkod
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                #27
                Originally posted by Inspired


                you know what's dodgy? it happens to Canelo, suddenly the testing agencies changed their rule and now you can get away from it if you provide evidence you were in mexico at the time!!

                it didnt used to be like that. Erik Morales got banned for 2 yrs in 2013 for it. he was still allowed to fight Danny Garcia, only because Garcia wanted to fight on.
                https://www.espn.co.uk/boxing/story/...s-failed-tests

                it seems dodgy to me since, as we both agreed..if it was common for mexican meat to be tainted, they would ALL have failed by now. plus, there doesnt seem to be any sense of responsibility. as long as they were in mexico and can provide evidence, they'll get away with it.
                smh.
                Canelo has the president of the WBC in his pocket, and the WBC are one of the oldest and most well established international governing bodies in world sport. There is a lot of money in Mexican boxing, and as more and more Mexicans migrate to the US, that market is getting more and more lucrative all the time.

                Canelo said ALL Mexican meat is contaminated with clenbuterol, which is simply not true. And as his trainer works in the meat industry, Canelo knows damned well that it isn't true.

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                • Thuglife Nelo
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by kafkod

                  Canelo has the president of the WBC in his pocket, and the WBC are one of the oldest and most well established international governing bodies in world sport. There is a lot of money in Mexican boxing, and as more and more Mexicans migrate to the US, that market is getting more and more lucrative all the time.

                  Canelo said ALL Mexican meat is contaminated with clenbuterol, which is simply not true. And as his trainer works in the meat industry, Canelo knows damned well that it isn't true.
                  Canelo doesn’t even like Sulaiman. Nice try. Canelo told Graham Bensinger to go eat some random meat and take a test. He said you’d probably get a result. Perhaps I should write a letter to Graham and dare him to do it and check for trace amounts. He could disclose if he wants. In fact I will do that

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                  • kafkod
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Thuglife Nelo

                    Canelo doesn’t even like Sulaiman. Nice try. Canelo told Graham Bensinger to go eat some random meat and take a test. He said you’d probably get a result. Perhaps I should write a letter to Graham and dare him to do it and check for trace amounts. He could disclose if he wants. In fact I will do that
                    Canelo has been boxing professionally since he was 15 years old, and his trainer works in the meat industry. That should tell anybody with a brain in their head, who isn't a blindly biased fanboy, that Canelo would NOT have been eating "random meat" while training for fight with VADA testing.

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                    • Thuglife Nelo
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by kafkod

                      Canelo has been boxing professionally since he was 15 years old, and his trainer works in the meat industry. That should tell anybody with a brain in their head, who isn't a blindly biased fanboy, that Canelo would NOT have been eating "random meat" while training for fight with VADA testing.
                      Again spreading lies. Nobody in industry acknowledges the Reynoso family as “working” in the meat industry. Lol.

                      even in present tense continuous, the Reynoso’s are dedicated to boxing, not meat. It’s nice propaganda to troll Chepo Reynoso’s previous businesses from the past.

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