The Gerald McClellan appreciation thread

[Benncollinsaad]

I've been here 3 years longer than you, been banned many times before. I have nothing to worry about some red karma having troll that reports every post I make.

I don't bother reporting anyone. Others do it for me.

[Dynamite Kid]

LOL





I disagree with him frequently, but Mr. Slimey Limey is an impassioned guy with some idiosyncratic and occasionally surprising/illuminating viewpoints, and that's enough to make me feel like he should be here. Don't get him banned.

He is your ALT

[TheGreatA]

Except I wasn't critisizing McClellan you twat. You just got mad because I called you a twat, proving that you will always be a sensitive little ****(Do you think I'll change my mind on you just because you make one good post? You could save my best lad's life and I'd still think you're a wanker). The reason I don't slag McClellan is because if these things about dogfighting are true, it's nothing compared to Joe Louis attempting to murder his wife, or Gay Robinson beating up his entire family. The only reason you'd disagree with me is if you were a treehugger that values the life of animals more than humans. And that's what you did, so that is what you are, mate.

Not sure if you understood what I meant.

All I'm saying is that you better be able to take what you dish out. If you feel insulted that people bring up Gerald McClellan's personal issues then why be a hypocrite and do the same thing with Robinson and Louis?

You could say this

"seems more like a Hollywood movie. Too dramatic for my taste"

about your two statements about Louis and Robinson.

The stories about Louis and Robinson abusing people close to them are all well known facts. The McClellan dogfighting stories came out in a book, a very well written one mind you. Abusing Dogs, abusing your wife or son, which one is worse? Tell me.

Abusing dogs on a regular basis is worse than losing your cool at one moment as Louis did.

That tells a lot about anyone as a person, animals or not.

And how was I trying to "get out of the debate" when you were the one that actually ended up running off from that thread just like you did in the thunderdome? When lads dissapear they lose, just like you will here, mate. The lovely thing about it is you were bringing up loads of threads in the thunderdome accusing me of the same thing, yet you quit twice already just like your idols.

I didn't "run" anywhere. You didn't offer anything for me to respond that I hadn't already responded to before. When a man doesn't even put up an effort to back up the statements that he makes, the debate is all but over at that point.

You said Robinson put on an "act" against Maxim, I refuted it.

You said many boxers fight as dehydrated as Robinson did, I refuted it.

You said I've never admitted that Robinson had flaws, I refuted it.

You stated a lot of people thought Louis was a quitter because of the first Schmeling fight without backing it up.

You said Tyson showed more heart against Lewis than Louis or Robinson ever did, I refuted it.

You said Ali never wanted to quit, I refuted it.

You said I've never given credit to Joey Maxim, I refuted it.

Basically all of your flawed arguments were picked apart and proven wrong over and over.

[Benncollinsaad]

Not sure if you understood what I meant.

All I'm saying is that you better be able to take what you dish out. If you feel insulted that people bring up Gerald McClellan's personal issues then why be a hypocrite and do the same thing with Robinson and Louis?

You could say this

"seems more like a Hollywood movie. Too dramatic for my taste"

about your two statements about Louis and Robinson.



Abusing dogs on a regular basis is worse than losing your cool at one moment as Louis did.

That tells a lot about anyone as a person, animals or not.



I didn't "run" anywhere. You didn't offer anything for me to respond that I hadn't already responded to before. When a man doesn't even put up an effort to back up the statements that he makes, the debate is all but over at that point.

You said Robinson put on an "act" against Maxim, I refuted it.

You said many boxers fight as dehydrated as Robinson did, I refuted it.

You said I've never admitted that Robinson had flaws, I refuted it.

You stated a lot of people thought Louis was a quitter because of the first Schmeling fight without backing it up.

You said Tyson showed more heart against Lewis than Louis or Robinson ever did, I refuted it.

You said Ali never wanted to quit, I refuted it.

You said I've never given credit to Joey Maxim, I refuted it.

Basically all of your flawed arguments were picked apart and proven wrong over and over.

Joey Maxim beat him up.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

He is your ALT

You think? LOL!



It's a backward compliment you think he could be.

[Slimey Limey]

Not sure if you understood what I meant.

All I'm saying is that you better be able to take what you dish out. If you feel insulted that people bring up Gerald McClellan's personal issues then why be a hypocrite and do the same thing with Robinson and Louis?

You could say this

"seems more like a Hollywood movie. Too dramatic for my taste"

about your two statements about Louis and Robinson.



Abusing dogs on a regular basis is worse than losing your cool at one moment as Louis did.

That tells a lot about anyone as a person, animals or not.



I didn't "run" anywhere. You didn't offer anything for me to respond that I hadn't already responded to before. When a man doesn't even put up an effort to back up the statements that he makes, the debate is all but over at that point.

You said Robinson put on an "act" against Maxim, I refuted it.

You said many boxers fight as dehydrated as Robinson did, I refuted it.

You said I've never admitted that Robinson had flaws, I refuted it.

You stated a lot of people thought Louis was a quitter because of the first Schmeling fight without backing it up.

You said Tyson showed more heart against Lewis than Louis or Robinson ever did, I refuted it.

You said Ali never wanted to quit, I refuted it.

You said I've never given credit to Joey Maxim, I refuted it.

Basically all of your flawed arguments were picked apart and proven wrong over and over.

I'm bringing it up because what he MIGHT have done is irrelevant. Who gives a **** about a couple of dead Dogs that lived decades ago? If he was responsible for the deaths of human beings, instead of some Pitbulls, then yes I wouldn't complain if people ripped on him now. Get this through your thick skull for once, or do you want me to repeat this to you for another 10 pages to make you quit again in the end?
And the only thing you can take and dish out is a strapon from one of your Joe Louis loving boyfriends, mate.

And you call Joe Louis hitting his wife, choking her unconcious and only stopping his rage because somebody was around "losing your cool"?

It doesn't surprise me that you love Doggies more. Do you hate women, girlmachine? If I lose my cool and kill my wife today, will you just say "I lost my cool" and claim dogfighting is worse?

And yes you DID run away, mate. If you didn't want to respond anymore you would have atleast said something along the lines of "waaa waaa I don't feel like going through this with you anymore waa waa". But nope, all of a sudden you dissapeared for days and decided to quit like a *****, just like your idols bumbeater and Gay

Heard nothing from ya, untill now. So ya finally found your balls to respond to me again?

And as far as your pathetic attempts at the bottom

1-You can't refute an opinion, moron.
2-I said many boxers fight dehydrated, and some also lost a lot of weight. Someone mentioned Frazier against Ali, and you quickly shut your trap there.
3-I DRAGGED it out of you, mate. That only proves me right about you never wanting to admit his flaws because of your bias.
4-That was irrelevant to me, and I didn't TRY to back it up or ever claim to.
5-I said Tyson showed more heart in the Lewis fight than Louis' fight against Schmeling, and Gay's against Maxim. Which is true. Because those 2 quit.
6-He didn't want to quit in the Frazier fight, which is what it was about at first. And the fact is that ALi never quit. Your lads did.
7-Whenever we're talking about Gay vs Maxim you won't give Maxim credit. you will spend your time making excuses for Gay. Once again, I have to drag it out of you.

So lad, are you ready to go for another 15 pages of flaming? You should know by now that you can't beat me unless you try to get me banned like a coward.

[Dynamite Kid]

You think? LOL!



It's a backward compliment you think he could be.

I think ? No, its obvious.

[VatoMulatto]

Who gives a **** if he enjoyed dog fighting? Roy Jones jr loves ****fighting and has been raising and fighting roosters since he was a kid, but I don't see anyone talking trash about Roy Jones jr because of that. Gerald McClellan was one hellava fighter who beat Roy jones in the amateurs and could've been an all time great had he survived that horrible night against Nigel Benn.

[TheGreatA]

I'm bringing it up because what he MIGHT have done is irrelevant. Who gives a **** about a couple of dead Dogs that lived decades ago? If he was responsible for the deaths of human beings, instead of some Pitbulls, then yes I wouldn't complain if people ripped on him now. Get this through your thick skull for once, or do you want me to repeat this to you for another 10 pages to make you quit again in the end?
And the only thing you can take and dish out is a strapon from one of your Joe Louis loving boyfriends, mate.

And you call Joe Louis hitting his wife, choking her unconcious and only stopping his rage because somebody was around "losing your cool"?

It doesn't surprise me that you love Doggies more. Do you hate women, girlmachine? If I lose my cool and kill my wife today, will you just say "I lost my cool" and claim dogfighting is worse?

More nonsense from you again that has little to do with what I said.

You are over-dramatizing what Louis did much like many do what McClellan did. By all accounts Louis was about to choke her until being stopped. He never did such a thing again.

That's far from killing your wife.

As I said, if you can't take people criticizing your favorite fighter's personal issues, don't do the same thing with Louis and Robinson.

And yes you DID run away, mate. If you didn't want to respond anymore you would have atleast said something along the lines of "waaa waaa I don't feel like going through this with you anymore waa waa". But nope, all of a sudden you dissapeared for days and decided to quit like a *****, just like your idols bumbeater and Gay

You didn't offer anything to respond to. You simply explained why you felt the way you did and why you brought up Louis and Robinson quitting.

You didn't try to argue against anything I said.

And as far as your pathetic attempts at the bottom

1-You can't refute an opinion, moron.
2-I said many boxers fight dehydrated, and some also lost a lot of weight. Someone mentioned Frazier against Ali, and you quickly shut your trap there.
3-I DRAGGED it out of you, mate. That only proves me right about you never wanting to admit his flaws because of your bias.
4-That was irrelevant to me, and I didn't TRY to back it up or ever claim to.
5-I said Tyson showed more heart in the Lewis fight than Louis' fight against Schmeling, and Gay's against Maxim. Which is true. Because those 2 quit.
6-He didn't want to quit in the Frazier fight, which is what it was about at first. And the fact is that ALi never quit. Your lads did.
7-Whenever we're talking about Gay vs Maxim you won't give Maxim credit. you will spend your time making excuses for Gay. Once again, I have to drag it out of you.

1. You can refute a baseless, unfounded opinion that you were trying to push as a fact.

2. I asked boxingbuff to prove what he said about Frazier losing weight. He didn't and I've never found anything of the sort from anywhere else.

Either way he lost less weight against Ali than Robinson did against Maxim, and Frazier weighs 50 more pounds than Robinson did.

He also didn't suffer from any symptoms of severe dehydration unlike Robinson.

3. I brought up previously made posts about Robinson before you even started posting on these forums again, thus refuting what you said about me being unable to admit flaws about Robinson.

4. You said many people other than you feel Louis quit against Schmeling and couldn't back it up. How was it irrelevant?

5.

"The fact that he may have quit in other fights does not cover up the fact that he showed more balls that night than any Salty Gay fighters you look up to."

6.

"Ali never wanted to quit, and was not a quitter, and never actually quit. That's all a bunch of nonsense from his dislikers. You have a lot of nerve making these claims while you sport an avatar with a cowardly quitter like that."

I brought up him wanting to quit against Sonny Liston (the first time).

7. I'm not making excuses for Ray, I'm stating facts. I've also said that Robinson shouldn't be excused for not being well-prepared enough against Maxim, all I'm saying is that he didn't quit.

Here's what Mr. Joey Maxim himself had to say about the bout:

"The heat favoured me tonight", he said. "I would be a real dummy not to know he was way ahead."

Maxim added: "I thought he was giving me the 'dead man' act in the 13th. I was not sure at all that he was all in although I noticed him starting to soften up in the 11th round."

Asked why he had not throw more punches at the dancing, jabbing Robinson, Maxim replied simply: "I just couldn't get at him."

http://news.google.com/newspapers?id...maxim+robinson

So lad, are you ready to go for another 15 pages of flaming? You should know by now that you can't beat me unless you try to get me banned like a coward.

The only way you'll get banned is if you go over the line, in which case you only have yourself to blame. I've never reported anybody and I don't see any reason in even trying to get you banned because all you've done is use rather "colourful" language so far. That's no problem because a lot of people on these forums do.

[MACAQUEINBLACK]

I think ? No, its obvious.

Ok, ok, you got me! I 'fess up! :$


Just answer me one thing so I don't get caught out so easy next time,

why is it obvious?