Comments Thread For: Frank Mir: Steve Cunningham Fight Is Most Difficult Boxing Debut, He's Tougher Than Tarver

[TMLT87]

Tell that to WWE reject CM-Punk.

When was CM Punk the main attraction of the biggest UFC PPV of the year?

[1hourRun]

When was CM Punk the main attraction of the biggest UFC PPV of the year?

When will celebrities start selling MMA PPV's, you know considering as you say its soo much more popular than boxing?

[TMLT87]

When will celebrities start selling MMA PPV's, you know considering as you say its soo much more popular than boxing?

Did you miss the part where I said its obviously quicker, easier and safer for these celebrities to do boxing than MMA? bigger gloves, shorter rounds, just punching. And no i'm not saying boxing is "easier" at actual elite pro level, i'm saying its easier for someone to pick up a bit of basic boxing ability than start learning takedowns, kicks, submissions etc as well. Then add to that that celebrities punching each other with big gloves on for 3 min rounds is obviously less risky and more simple for them than potentially taking unprotected elbows, knees, kicks to the head, being choked, having their arm snapped, head gashed open, dropped on their neck etc for a bit of money and attention.


At the end of the day, these fights constitute a major part of what the casual audience is seeing of boxing nowadays - Youtubers, 54 year old Mike Tyson, MMA fighters, strongmen, NBA players etc. Its a terrible look thats going to make any lapsed boxing fan think "****, boxing is dead".

[1hourRun]

Did you miss the part where I said its obviously quicker, easier and safer for these celebrities to do boxing than MMA? bigger gloves, shorter rounds, just punching. And no i'm not saying boxing is "easier" at actual elite pro level, i'm saying its easier for someone to pick up a bit of basic boxing ability than start learning takedowns, kicks, submissions etc as well. Then add to that that celebrities punching each other with big gloves on for 3 min rounds is obviously less risky and more simple for them than potentially taking unprotected elbows, knees, kicks to the head, being choked, having their arm snapped, head gashed open, dropped on their neck etc for a bit of money and attention.


At the end of the day, these fights constitute a major part of what the casual audience is seeing of boxing nowadays - Youtubers, 54 year old Mike Tyson, MMA fighters, strongmen, NBA players etc. Its a terrible look thats going to make any lapsed boxing fan think "****, boxing is dead".

Are you sure the reason that celebrities pick Boxing over MMA, isn't because they know that a MMA fight would look horrible and end in a few seconds? Nobody wants to see Lamar Odom dry-hump Aaron Carter -- well maybe you do.

I dont know how long the rounds are in MMA exhibitions are but I highly doubt these Youtubers/Influencers, would be good enough to slap on some flying-anaconda or some other quueeer choke on their opponents in less time that the exhibition time-limit affords them. Nobody wants to see that gay ****, thats the real reason celebrities wont sell MMA ppvs. Its thats simple.

[TMLT87]

thats the real reason celebrities wont sell MMA ppvs. Its thats simple.

Thats okay, MMA fighters sell MMA PPVs.

[Combat Talk Radio]

When was CM Punk the main attraction of the biggest UFC PPV of the year?

UFC 203, biggest of 2016.

Everyone who bought, bought to see him get wrecked like they knew he would (but weren't sure if he'd at least look legit). That and to hear Cult of Personality for the ring walk since Lesnar didn't use his WWE theme for his ringwalk.


He WAS the draw of that event.

Same with UFC 225 which was in his hometown, 2018.

PUNK drew those fans - who actually believed he might have a chance this time because Mike Jackson is garbage. Instead, they watched Jackson toy with the man so bad that even Dana White trashed Jackson AND Punk.

[TMLT87]

UFC 203, biggest of 2016.

Everyone who bought, bought to see him get wrecked like they knew he would (but weren't sure if he'd at least look legit). That and to hear Cult of Personality for the ring walk since Lesnar didn't use his WWE theme for his ringwalk.


He WAS the draw of that event.

Same with UFC 225 which was in his hometown, 2018.

PUNK drew those fans - who actually believed he might have a chance this time because Mike Jackson is garbage. Instead, they watched Jackson toy with the man so bad that even Dana White trashed Jackson AND Punk.

Amusingly bold attempt to sell some serious grade A bull**** but I hope you dont actually believe any of it. 203 was main evented by Stipe/Reem for the HW title and did 450,000 buys in a year where the UFC had 5 different ppvs that broke a million. 225 had Whittaker/Romero, Colby/RDA and Holly Holm above him on the bill and did 250k which is actually poor for a UFC PPV. Punk was never the main reason for a card selling and his presence on cards seemed to have a negligible effect on their numbers. Meanwhile the two biggest drawing boxing PPVs since Floyd/Pac are Floyd vs an MMA fighter and 54 year old Mike Tyson vs 52 year old RJJ in an exhibition match with a co main of a Youtuber vs an NBA player. Now the first time boxing gets on PPV this year its a Youtuber vs an MMA fighter with the secondary draw being a retired boxer vs a retired MMA fighter, you can practically guarantee that the majority of people ordering this PPV dont even know who Regis Prograis is. The CM Punk situation is not remotely comparable to that.

[Combat Talk Radio]

Amusingly bold attempt to sell some serious grade A bull**** but I hope you dont actually believe any of it. 203 was main evented by Stipe/Reem for the HW title and did 450,000 buys in a year where the UFC had 5 different ppvs that broke a million. 225 had Whittaker/Romero, Colby/RDA and Holly Holm above him on the bill and did 250k which is actually poor for a UFC PPV. Punk was never the main reason for a card selling and his presence on cards seemed to have a negligible effect on their numbers.

That's what happens when you compare in a vacuum and change the rules.

BY ITSELF, CM Punk's presence at the event was the reason for its numbers.

Sherdog: While Miocic-Overeem was the official main event, former WWE talent CM Punk’s Octagon debut was the evening’s featured attraction for many observers.

Oops

[Larry the boss]

Frank Mir???lmfao..wow he has no stand up at all

[TMLT87]

That's what happens when you compare in a vacuum and change the rules.

BY ITSELF, CM Punk's presence at the event was the reason for its numbers.

Sherdog: While Miocic-Overeem was the official main event, former WWE talent CM Punk’s Octagon debut was the evening’s featured attraction for many observers.

Oops

Oh well if one writer on Sherdog said it it must be true. Never mind the fact that the numbers for one PPV were literally below average and the numbers for the other were very much in line with typical Stipe main evented PPVs. Punk isnt even a big star, look at his IG followers, 680k. Stipe has 1.5m, Reem has 1.1m, Yoel has 1.1m, Whittaker has 962k, those are the main eventers for the two cards he was on. It is incredibly desperate trying to compare that to whats happening in boxing currently.