It's pretty obvious why. He gassed out looking for one shot way too much. He thought he was going to blast through Vlasov and Vlasov knew it too. He was much more evasive and awkward than Smith thought he would be. Smith underperformed and Vlasov fought to the best of his abilities. Smith threw way too many wide shots and head hunted too much. If he used a double and triple jab more often and put the straight right or right cross behind it he would've had more success. Vlasov saw how Bivol was successful against Smith and used that as a blueprint while implementing his unorthodox movement and threw light shots all night, knowing that they would catch Smith who got more frustrated as the fight went on.
Comments Thread For: Judging The Judges: Smith-Vlasov Scorecard Analysis
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Not much controversy here. I scored it a draw. Vlasov was ahead 6-4 on my card until he faded badly in 11 and 12. No robbery at all. Vlasov made this fight harder than it needed to be by neglecting the body. Would love a rematch, but we all know Bob wants to see the white Main Street American vs. the Russian.Comment
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I was going for Vlasov. But thought Smith did enough to win.
Vlasov clinched too much and didn't throw enough punches, probably because he was gassed halfway through the fight.
That's a question for Vlasov camp. Dietitian or conditioning, etc.
Vlasov has interesting style, but needs to throw more punches.Comment
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So even though it was clearly a rabbit punch and the ref signalled no KD, one of the judges still scored the round 10-8 for Smith, so that Vlasov would need a KO to win the fight? That's the sort of BS that makes the corruption obvious.Comment
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Sarcasm aside, I understand what you are trying to achieve by saying stuff like this.
But it ignores something pretty key... all fights are scored live. Its probably true people are better judges after the fact, but that's not the dynamic available to judges on fight night
Rewatching a fight in an attempt to review is nearly always going to differ from the time limited, unknowing nature of scoring live... if not in end result, then definitely in criteria
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Yeah but are you watching in slow motion, 8k, with any visible crowd cut out?
Sarcasm aside, I understand what you are trying to achieve by saying stuff like this.
But it ignores something pretty key... all fights are scored live. Its probably true people are better judges after the fact, but that's not the dynamic available to judges on fight night
Rewatching a fight in an attempt to review is nearly always going to differ from the time limited, unknowing nature of scoring live... if not in end result, then definitely in criteria
If a boxing forum isn't a place to discuss the outcomes of fights, then I'm not sure what the point of this forum is. Maybe I need to make more posts about haters and how they have double standards regarding my guys and other important things like A-side/B-side. It won't happen again, seriously.Comment
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Sorry, I won't score fights anymore unless I'm sitting ringside wearing a bowtie. I usually rewind each round a few times and THEN wait for the slow motion replays in between the rounds before I decide on who won the round. But then, I wait until the end of the fight to hear the judge's cards. Then I wait to see on boxrec which judges scored which round for who. Then I watch the fight again to see if I agree with the official judges and adjust my score accordingly. Not until then, have I finalized my scorecard. Sarcasm aside...
If a boxing forum isn't a place to discuss the outcomes of fights, then I'm not sure what the point of this forum is. Maybe I need to make more posts about haters and how they have double standards regarding my guys and other important things like A-side/B-side. It won't happen again, seriously.Comment
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I had Vlasov winning 116-112 and that was probably being generous to Smith.
The scorecards and punchstats was total bs! The announcers had a clear agenda and was literally screaming at the top of their lungs as-if they were in Smiths corner. They was practically yelling out for him to go to the body and screaming advice.
The sport is so predictable you don't even need to watch it half the time to know the outcome. It was totally obvious going in with how much they're clammering for Smith vs Beterbiev and what for other than to keep the Beterbiev hypetrain rolling as Smith sure as hell doesn't have a prayer.Comment
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Ugh, agreed. I was wondering how he lost that point.Comment
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I didn't score it or see all of it live. Was switching back and forth between the SHO card.Comment
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