Boots is another middleweight pretending he is a welterweight

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  • JakeTheBoxer
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    #1

    Boots is another middleweight pretending he is a welterweight

    His power scares people at 147, but it won`t be so effective when he moves forward.

    I give him a big credit for stopping Lipinets, but I don`t believe he beats Spence or Porter, because these guys are also very strong welterweights, they both could fight in higher divisions.

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    #2
    I hate this narrative. Your weight class is the smallest weight class you can cut to and still be healthy.

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    • Dakuwaqa
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      #3
      If you can make the weight then all good with me.

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      • Combat Talk Radio
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        #4
        Originally posted by bballchump11
        I hate this narrative. Your weight class is the smallest weight class you can cut to and still be healthy.
        So are you saying that Crawford is not a true welter, since he himself has said he could go back down to 140 easily?

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        • The3
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          #5
          Spence , Boots and Jamal James

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          • Mammoth
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            #6
            He looks like a big welterweight to me. He might even be a special fighter but we can pointlessly try to discredit him for whatever reason too. That's cool.

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            • KTFOKING
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              #7
              I never understood this. If he can make the weight, then he can fight in that weight class. If he was so big and struggling to cut down, then he is sacrificing a part of him to make the weight.

              But eventually I see this man becoming a three weight world champion, not sure if he will be able to fight above 160 though.

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              • Citizen Koba
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                #8
                This is the absolutely standard progression for high level prospects in North American boxing... if they're manged properly to maximise both success and opportunity it's best to take most advantage of the ability to rehydrate more as a younger man whilst also acknowledging the natural physiological progression. I mean I ain't particularly in favour of rehydration games but whatever rules you set fighters will push themselves to the limit to maximise their advantages... it will never be any other way with so much at stake.

                Typically this will mean a fighter starting out at 19 - 21 or so will end up at age 30ish about two divisions higher than they debut at assuming they start with a major promotion who have an eye on maximising their potential, moving up once about the age as 25 - 27 when they come into their full physical maturity and moving up again at around age 30 when the toll of weight cutting becomes increasingly onerous. They won't typically be coming to the ring significantly larger at age 32 or 33 than they did at 26 or 28 but just cut less..

                There's some variation of course... some dudes will only move up once if they weren't cutting all that much to start with, others might have the style or natural talent to fight small in a division higher than their physique would naturally suggest, but as general rule of thumb going up two divisions is pretty much standard.

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                • Shadoww702
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                  #9
                  The flip side is he could be weight draining himself. Funny how depending who it is this flips....

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                  • KTFOKING
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                    #10
                    Originally posted by Citizen Koba
                    This is the absolutely standard progression for high level prospects in North American boxing... if they're manged properly to maximise both success and opportunity it's best to take most advantage of the ability to rehydrate more as a younger man whilst also acknowledging the natural physiological progression.

                    Typically this will mean a fighter starting out at 19 - 21 or so will end up at age 30ish about two divisions higher than they debut at assuming they start with a major promotion who have an eye on maximising their potential, moving up once about the age as 25 - 27 when they come into their full physical maturity and moving up again at around age 30 when the toll of weight cutting because increasingly onerous. They won't typically be coming to the ring significantly larger at age 32 or 33 than they did at 26 or 28 but just cut less..

                    There's some variation of course... some dudes will only move up once if they weren't cutting all that much to start with, others might have the style or natural talent to fight small in a division higher than their physique would naturally suggest, but as general rule of thumb going up two divisions is pretty much standard.
                    Yeah, fighters in America just turn pro far younger than other places. It is easier to cut weight and maintain your weight when you are only 23 years old. Boots will certainly be able to fill out to MW eventually.

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