Comments Thread For: Conor Benn Blows Out Samuel Vargas in One Round

[Rbs3rd]

Yo! Just saw the footage. The UK has some f’d up, questionable stoppages. Alot!!! But this wasnt one. Vargas was gettin tagged. That uppercut and then the 4 punch combo right after was def enough to stop it. I do understand the protest from fans though. UK be on that bull jive sometimes. But this WAS a good stoppage, imho. Just my 2 cents.

[El_Mero]

Shyte card anyway, you get what you pay for with dayzin

$120 for a year for Aj/fury x2 and 3 Alvarez fights is worth the $, and Im not an AJ or Saul fan.

[Rbs3rd]

Johnny Nelson the king of "Immediate Overreaction"

Props to Benn for taking care of business, yes the stoppage was kind of fast but he was getting blast with repeated clean shots I don't know WTF Vargas gameplan was. That being said clearly Eddie is building Benn up by "He Beat This Guy Faster Than The Other Guy" but make not mistake Johnny F^cking Nelson and the Bias Fanboys who think like him, Benn is still working his way up he is not ready for any of the Top Level guys in that Loaded Divisions. If they feel he is ready then please make those fights, send out some offers. Custio Clayton is available and a Free Agent make that fight next if you really want to test him. Ray Robinson, David Avanesyan all would test Benn properly

I like Benn though, continues to improve with every fight but of course he is going to have those fans who go too far and start to overrated him

Yeah Clayton would be a good next opponent. Hes much slicker and moves better than Vargas. Everyone isnt gonna just stand in front of you and let you tee off. Plus it gives Benn a different type of fighter to build up his resume and experience. Robinson and avanesyan as well.

[Kannabis Kid]

Stoppage was a bit early but im ok with it from the referees standpoint Vargas was getting frozen with every shot against the ropes and looked motionless Corrales Castillo style so I don't blame him for stopping it Benn looks good but notice how he didn't call out any upcoming contender he called out Amir Khan, Kell Brook and Adrien Broner lmao how about him vs Vergil Ortiz.

[PRINCEKOOL]

Vargas wasn't doing nothing doe. He wasn't throwing back & he wasn't evading/being defensively sound very well either. And Benn wasn't stopping & was coming hard n fast. This was definitely not a "UK stoppage" as it's sometimes called imo. You gotta show SOMETHING or don't be surprised when the fight gets stopped. I suspect most US refs not named Steve Smoger would have stopped this fight too.

Here is how it goes with me.

'If a man is still standing, then that man is still in the fight'.

The fights does not get stopped, especially not in the first round.

It is as simple as that. There is no two ways about it. There are medical staff ringside, there is a corner that can also throw in the towel.

These fighters train to enter into combat, so LET the fight play out.

I get it? People are concerned over fighters getting hurt. But where does this attitude stop?

Fighters should be allowed freedom, and not being forced to continually fight a certain way.

I just feel like there is a certain culture growing in boxing, that may impede freedom.

Vargas may have been stopped later on in the fight, but I just feel some fights should be able to play out.

Note: Yes I know Steve Smoger, there was also a Italian American referee who would also let fights play out.

[Eff Pandas]

Here is how it goes with me.

'If a man is still standing, then that man is still in the fight'.

So you wanna see more guys get severe injuries & to be killed in the ring is what you are saying?

The fights does not get stopped, especially not in the first round.

Why would the round matter. If you aren't fighting back &/or evading shots like Conor was bringing in any round I'd argue it shouldn't go on.

It is as simple as that. There is no two ways about it. There are medical staff ringside, there is a corner that can also throw in the towel.

The ref has that job also. You are deciding to take powers away from the ref when he's the best person to access the situation in the moment its taking place.

These fighters train to enter into combat, so LET the fight play out.

I get it? People are concerned over fighters getting hurt. But where does this attitude stop?

Sure, but its combat not a fight to the death. If a fight isn't competitive whats the point of going on. That said for full disclosure I am one of those cats that wish those 7-0 in the 8th round where a guy is merely avoiding the fight to survive til the decision type fights should be stopped as well. I want competitive fights not death matches or boring one sides mismatches where I'm deciding to make food or run errands instead of watching the fight.

Fighters should be allowed freedom, and not being forced to continually fight a certain way.

Thats the sport. Everyone knows going in if you are getting your ass beat & not doing sh^t the fight can & will be stopped. Vargas knew that. He either couldn't make the decision to fight back or evade or decided to not do those things cuz he wanted the fight to end. The rules didn't get made up after this fight. Vargas went in knowing what was up.

I just feel like there is a certain culture growing in boxing, that may impede freedom.

No fooking clue what "freedom" gots to do with any of this. The rules are the rules. I wanna see competitive fights not someone get a severe injury or be killed in the ring. Conor was CLEARLY the better fighter tonight & I'd suggest Vargas CLEARLY didn't want to be there any longer then he was there either consciously or unconsciously.

Vargas may have been stopped later on in the fight, but I just feel some fights should be able to play out.

No doubt plenty of fights should play out, competitive ones where guys are fighting back or are conscious of the danger they are in enough to evade the attack coming their way.

[Monty Fisto]

So you wanna see more guys get severe injuries & to be killed in the ring is what you are saying?



Why would the round matter. If you aren't fighting back &/or evading shots like Conor was bringing in any round I'd argue it shouldn't go on.



The ref has that job also. You are deciding to take powers away from the ref when he's the best person to access the situation in the moment its taking place.



Sure, but its combat not a fight to the death. If a fight isn't competitive whats the point of going on. That said for full disclosure I am one of those cats that wish those 7-0 in the 8th round where a guy is merely avoiding the fight to survive til the decision type fights should be stopped as well. I want competitive fights not death matches or boring one sides mismatches where I'm deciding to make food or run errands instead of watching the fight.



Thats the sport. Everyone knows going in if you are getting your ass beat & not doing sh^t the fight can & will be stopped. Vargas knew that. He either couldn't make the decision to fight back or evade or decided to not do those things cuz he wanted the fight to end. The rules didn't get made up after this fight. Vargas went in knowing what was up.



No fooking clue what "freedom" gots to do with any of this. The rules are the rules. I wanna see competitive fights not someone get a severe injury or be killed in the ring. Conor was CLEARLY the better fighter tonight & I'd suggest Vargas CLEARLY didn't want to be there any longer then he was there either consciously or unconsciously.



No doubt plenty of fights should play out, competitive ones where guys are fighting back or are conscious of the danger they are in enough to evade the attack coming their way.

Good post!

It is simple: if you do not demonstrate to a ref that you are capable of defending yourself, you are at risk of a stoppage.

[diarraisagod]

So you wanna see more guys get severe injuries & to be killed in the ring is what you are saying?



Why would the round matter. If you aren't fighting back &/or evading shots like Conor was bringing in any round I'd argue it shouldn't go on.



The ref has that job also. You are deciding to take powers away from the ref when he's the best person to access the situation in the moment its taking place.



Sure, but its combat not a fight to the death. If a fight isn't competitive whats the point of going on. That said for full disclosure I am one of those cats that wish those 7-0 in the 8th round where a guy is merely avoiding the fight to survive til the decision type fights should be stopped as well. I want competitive fights not death matches or boring one sides mismatches where I'm deciding to make food or run errands instead of watching the fight.



Thats the sport. Everyone knows going in if you are getting your ass beat & not doing sh^t the fight can & will be stopped. Vargas knew that. He either couldn't make the decision to fight back or evade or decided to not do those things cuz he wanted the fight to end. The rules didn't get made up after this fight. Vargas went in knowing what was up.



No fooking clue what "freedom" gots to do with any of this. The rules are the rules. I wanna see competitive fights not someone get a severe injury or be killed in the ring. Conor was CLEARLY the better fighter tonight & I'd suggest Vargas CLEARLY didn't want to be there any longer then he was there either consciously or unconsciously.



No doubt plenty of fights should play out, competitive ones where guys are fighting back or are conscious of the danger they are in enough to evade the attack coming their way.

Precisely this

The only scenario that I would consider giving somebody a little bit longer to turn things around is in a major fight like a world title or a fight of equal significance. But this fight was a crossroads fight, prospect vs gatekeeper and didn't fall into that criteria. Even then it wouldn't be much longer. It's much more important that both men get home safely to their families.

Like you said, Vargas isn't a novice and he knows full well that the referee would likely intervene in a situation like that

[thereeldeel]

Hopefully he fights and knocks out Amir Khan next.

[PRINCEKOOL]

So you wanna see more guys get severe injuries & to be killed in the ring is what you are saying?


Why would the round matter. If you aren't fighting back &/or evading shots like Conor was bringing in any round I'd argue it shouldn't go on.



The ref has that job also. You are deciding to take powers away from the ref when he's the best person to access the situation in the moment its taking place.



Sure, but its combat not a fight to the death. If a fight isn't competitive whats the point of going on. That said for full disclosure I am one of those cats that wish those 7-0 in the 8th round where a guy is merely avoiding the fight to survive til the decision type fights should be stopped as well. I want competitive fights not death matches or boring one sides mismatches where I'm deciding to make food or run errands instead of watching the fight.



Thats the sport. Everyone knows going in if you are getting your ass beat & not doing sh^t the fight can & will be stopped. Vargas knew that. He either couldn't make the decision to fight back or evade or decided to not do those things cuz he wanted the fight to end. The rules didn't get made up after this fight. Vargas went in knowing what was up.



No fooking clue what "freedom" gots to do with any of this. The rules are the rules. I wanna see competitive fights not someone get a severe injury or be killed in the ring. Conor was CLEARLY the better fighter tonight & I'd suggest Vargas CLEARLY didn't want to be there any longer then he was there either consciously or unconsciously.



No doubt plenty of fights should play out, competitive ones where guys are fighting back or are conscious of the danger they are in enough to evade the attack coming their way.

I want fights to play out until a conclusive ending. The fighters deserve that 'That is what they train for mate'.

And why are you acting all overly compassionate? This is a part of this new culture I have alluded to in boxing 'When I first joined these forums, you did not speak the way you are speaking now' I guess some people just buy into certain trends.

The referee's are getting more and more afraid to let fights play out or organically develop 'This is a side affect of this new culture in boxing'.

If Tyson Fury vs Anthony Joshua played out exactly like Benn vs Vargas 'People would be complaining in mass' YOU know what I am saying is correct.

What I am referring to when I speak about 'Freedom' is? Fighters in the back of their minds, in my opinion 'Are having to worry about a referee stopping the fight a bit too much' and this may affect their tactics and performance.

There are 12 rounds in a fight, THAT fight was stopped in 82 seconds of the first round. YOU go and watch the fight back and tell me how long was attack that Conor Benn put Vargas under? The attack was approximately between 10-12 seconds.

So you are sitting there, and trying to tell me 'That a professional boxer, who is under attack for 10-12 seconds and is still on his feet' MUST be pulled out of the fight, because it is just too brutal? For me the fight should of been allowed to continue, and reached its conclusive ending.

Conor Benn was probably going to win, I just feel the fight was kind of stopped too early.

It was a good win for Conor Benn, but he is not learning anything from fights being stopped early.