Calzaghe haters need to STFU!!!

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You talk **** about calzaghe.

What was getting "interesting" the prospect of fighting Dawson in front of 500 fans in a las vegas pub?

who gives a **** how many people it draws, its a good boxing match.

he did everything he had to,

no he didnt.

beat americas best (hopkins)

it was a close fight that could've gone either way. bhop deserved a rematch.

beat the guy who had loomed over his whole career (jones)

c'mon jones was shot.

beat americas brightest prospect (lacy)

lacy in hindsight is garbage, even coming up lacy was vulnerable. good win by calz tho, but that fight was just a jumping off point for calz's career.

beat the best guy in europe (kessler)

look, I can't deny that calz did something special at 168 lbs... but calz's career was just getting started.

had a big show off fight in wales in front of 80,000 (manfredo)

omfg manfredo??? COME ONE!!!

had beaten a british legend (eubank)
beat tough challangers (Reid, Bika etc) defended his title for over 10 years, won two ring titles, amassed 46 fights with no losses..etc.....etc......etc.....etc

again, can't diss what calz did at 168 lbs, but he retired when things just got interesting.

calz/hops II.

calz/dawson

calz/johnson (who he ducked 3x)

calz/adamek

calz/froch (for the uk champ)

calz/ winner of the super six

etc....

[Iceta]

He signed to fight him and got a serious injury. Then he tried to postpone twice but the second time, Johnson lost patience and pulled out and fought Roy Jones instead. Which you certainly can't blame Johnson for. But Calzaghe badly wanted that fight and said that when it fell through, that was the low point of his entire career, because he thought then that he'd never get any big fights.

Warren is mostly to blame for the fact that he got so few big fights before that. But in the big fights that he did get (Brewer, Mitchell, Lacy, etc.) he fought impressively.

Also, many of the so-called "bums" he fought were last minute replacements for other more credible fighters who had pulled out. Even Brewer was a replacement when Echolls pulled out.

And many of the other "bums" were mandatories. He'd have been stripped if he hadn't fought them.



He called out Ottke many times but Ottke made it clear he wasn't interested.

If Warren is to blame for Calzaghe not getting the big fights, then why did Calzaghe fight Roy Jones at the time he was free from Frank Warren when nobody was interested in it?

[zojo]

who gives a **** how many people it draws, its a good boxing match.


no he didnt.


it was a close fight that could've gone either way. bhop deserved a rematch.


c'mon jones was shot.


lacy in hindsight is garbage, even coming up lacy was vulnerable. good win by calz tho, but that fight was just a jumping off point for calz's career.


look, I can't deny that calz did something special at 168 lbs... but calz's career was just getting started.


omfg manfredo??? COME ONE!!!



again, can't diss what calz did at 168 lbs, but he retired when things just got interesting.

calz/hops II.

calz/dawson

calz/johnson (who he ducked 3x)

calz/adamek

calz/froch (for the uk champ)

calz/ winner of the super six

etc....

he didn't duck him 3 times, the fight just wouldnt get started because of joe hand injuries which have plagued him throughout his career.

[Sick/]

i'm just comparing hopkins to calzaghe and hopkins resume is far better. im pointing this out for ignorant people who say they did exactly the same thing.

he "almost" fought everyone. he wouldn't fight glen johnson. he never fought the "other guy" with 21 title defenses in the same division at the same exact time as him.

Bernard hopkins the midget killer

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he didn't duck him 3 times, the fight just wouldnt get started because of joe hand injuries which have plagued him throughout his career.

Pavlik is getting accused of ducking Paul Williams right now. So why shouldn't Joe Calzaghe be held to the same standards when it comes to Glen Johnson?

[Mr. Fantastic]

Pavlik is getting accused of ducking Paul Williams right now. So why shouldn't Joe Calzaghe be held to the same standards when it comes to Glen Johnson?

Calzaghe would put the same beating if not worse than the one Hopkins put on him. Besides if he would of fought him, you guys would probably add another American name or/and add him to the list of out of prime guys Cal beat.

[hammerhiem]

Pavlik is getting accused of ducking Paul Williams right now. So why shouldn't Joe Calzaghe be held to the same standards when it comes to Glen Johnson?

Mainly because Pavlik isn't ducking Williams maybe?

it's sport, people get injured.

is Floyd ducking JMM?

enough with this BS.

[Mr. Fantastic]

Bernard hopkins the midget killer

Hopkins has a better WW resume than most.

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he didn't duck him 3 times, the fight just wouldnt get started because of joe hand injuries which have plagued him throughout his career.

you say "tomAto" I say "tomatO".... but for reals, calz ducked johnson 3x

[hammerhiem]

Calzaghe would put the same beating if not worse than the one Hopkins put on him. Besides if he would of fought him, you guys would probably add another American name or/and add him to the list of out of prime guys Cal beat.

Yeah Johnson would be a bum with 13 losses and Cal would have ducked Tarver.