Terence Crawford Calls Out Canelo Alvarez: You Have Shied Away From Black Fighters! You Wanted NO Part of Andrade or Charlo!

[TernceBudCharlo]

CANELO
Jacobs
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Lara
Mayweather
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I guess Bud says the same for Mayweather?

First of all, people need to STOP talking about how he fought Trout, Mayweather, Lara. This was almost 8 years ago. This strategy of avoiding fighters that give him the most trouble began AFTER the Lara fight. Fighters with great skills, speed, defense, difficult to hit. Not necessarily fighters with power, but fighters who are fast and tough to land cleanly on. Instead, Canelo fooled the public by facing guys with a lot of power, which the casuals assume that means hard to beat. But they are wrong, it's the skilled guys like Andrade and Charlo that give Canelo trouble, not the slow plodding fighters like GGG and Callum Smith. The casual fans don't know the difference though.

Kirkland is the complete opposite of this.

Danny Jacobs is good but not a great fighter. Want to know how I know that fighters fear Danny Jacobs WAY less than Andrade or Charlo? GGG jumped at the chance to fight Danny Jacobs. That says it all. If Golovkin isn't afraid to fight a guy, then you know he must not be feared.

[MikeyMike100]

Interesting that Crawford would be even concerned with what Canelo is doing. I think Crawford is just frustrated that he hasn't been able to get the big fights based on his recent responses to fans tweets.

[HrNY]

First of all, people need to STOP talking about how he fought Trout, Mayweather, Lara. This was almost 8 years ago. This strategy of avoiding fighters that give him the most trouble began AFTER the Lara fight. Fighters with great skills, speed, defense, difficult to hit. Not necessarily fighters with power, but fighters who are fast and tough to land cleanly on. Instead, Canelo fooled the public by facing guys with a lot of power, which the casuals assume that means hard to beat. But they are wrong, it's the skilled guys like Andrade and Charlo that give Canelo trouble, not the slow plodding fighters like GGG and Callum Smith. The casual fans don't know the difference though.

Kirkland is the complete opposite of this.

Danny Jacobs is good but not a great fighter. Want to know how I know that fighters fear Danny Jacobs WAY less than Andrade or Charlo? GGG jumped at the chance to fight Danny Jacobs. That says it all. If Golovkin isn't afraid to fight a guy, then you know he must not be feared.

lol take off your captain savaho cape there. you responded really fast. hope you're on his payroll. what does it matter if it's 8 years ago? did he not fight BLACK guys? yes he did.

but even if what you're saying is true, you ain't got to be the one saying it. crawford the one who saying "canelo avoiding black fighters" when its clear he's fought black fighters. How about crawford just say what you just did, but instead crawford decided to go the race card.

Does bud have any guys like Andrade or Charlo on his list? Who are the Black guys Bud has fought, Gamboa? Brook? Indongo?(Are they black enough?)

Crawford had his chance to fight a lot of black guys across the street, but instead he stayed with his massa bob and got to fight these white boys and hispanics and euros

[HrNY]

He fought Jacobs just a few fights ago?

Also there hasn’t really been that many good black fighters at 160 and 168 in recent years for him to fight?

lol yes he did, he fought the guy who punked charlo in his face but for some reason canelo is supposed to fight charlo when charlo didn't even want to fight jacobs lol

[TernceBudCharlo]

lol take off your captain savaho cape there. you responded really fast. hope you're on his payroll. what does it matter if it's 8 years ago? did he not fight BLACK guys? yes he did.

but even if what you're saying is true, you ain't got to be the one saying it. crawford the one who saying "canelo avoiding black fighters" when its clear he's fought black fighters. How about crawford just say what you just did, but instead crawford decided to go the race card.

Does bud have any guys like Andrade or Charlo on his list? Who are the Black guys Bud has fought, Gamboa? Brook? Indongo?(Are they black enough?)

Crawford had his chance to fight a lot of black guys across the street, but instead he stayed with his massa bob and got to fight these white boys and hispanics and euros

To me it has nothing to do with skin color. It's the fighters most likely to hand you a defeat. Nobody here can deny that after the Lara fight, Canelo and his team redid their strategy and have been carefully avoiding the type of fighter that he does worst against. You can't tell me that Andrade and Charlo aren't more of a threat to beat him than the Smiths, Fielding, Kovalev, Kirkland, Khan, JCC JR, and many more.

As for Bud, up until this past year, there have been ZERO allegations that he has ever been ducking or dodging the most dangerous comp at his weight class. He fought all the best available guys at 135 and when there was no more challenges, went to 140 and fought all the best competition there and when there was no more, went to 147. It's only now that people are saying that he's ducking Spence and Porter, but I don't believe that's true seeing that he's been calling out Spence for years. However even if he is ducking Spence, which he most certainly is not, 1 year of ducking pales in comparison to the 8 years Canelo has ran away from Demetrius Andrade and the Charlo bros.

[HrNY]

To me it has nothing to do with skin color. It's the fighters most likely to hand you a defeat. Nobody here can deny that after the Lara fight, Canelo and his team redid their strategy and have been carefully avoiding the type of fighter that he does worst against. You can't tell me that Andrade and Charlo aren't more of a threat to beat him than the Smiths, Fielding, Kovalev, Kirkland, Khan, JCC JR, and many more.

As for Bud, up until this past year, there have been ZERO allegations that he has ever been ducking or dodging the most dangerous comp at his weight class. He fought all the best available guys at 135 and when there was no more challenges, went to 140 and fought all the best competition there and when there was no more, went to 147. It's only now that people are saying that he's ducking Spence and Porter, but I don't believe that's true seeing that he's been calling out Spence for years. However even if he is ducking Spence, which he most certainly is not, 1 year of ducking pales in comparison to the 8 years Canelo has ran away from Demetrius Andrade and the Charlo bros.

Good you aren't saying it has anything to do with color, but unfortunately Crawford is. Crawford could've easily said "Canelo ducking Andrade and Charlo" but instead went the "he ducking black guys" route when Canelo has fought just as many black guys as other elites. But bottom line is Canelo has fought Black guys, which goes against what Bud is claiming.

The only problem I have with Bud is when his contract ended, he had a chance to fight better guys, but he instead stayed with Bob.

[TernceBudCharlo]

Good you aren't saying it has anything to do with color, but unfortunately Crawford is. Crawford could've easily said "Canelo ducking Andrade and Charlo" but instead went the "he ducking black guys" route when Canelo has fought just as many black guys as other elites. But bottom line is Canelo has fought Black guys, which goes against what Bud is claiming.

The only problem I have with Bud is when his contract ended, he had a chance to fight better guys, but he instead stayed with Bob.

I agree he should have signed with Al. Thing is up until that point, he's conducting himself like a true professional, never avoided anyone, is a good father and family man, and brings integrity to the sport of boxing. So I'll give him a break for now, but if he really does avoid spence and porter I'll be the first to call him out.

[Mario040481]

Can’t believe I looked this up lol

it’s 9 actually

he fought lanardo Tyler, Larry Mosley, ndou lovermore

Close to 1/6 of his fights

He’s got a good representation of all fighters

Can't believe someone beat me to it, lol. I came up with 10 as I counted Euri Gonzalez who is from the Dominican Republic and of African heritage a la Lara.

[MastaBlasta]

First, Canelo won't fight any champion-level black fighters unless he can have a significant weight (bully) advantage in the fight. He may one day fight Charlo or Andrade, but only with some type of catch-weight whereby he can significantly outweigh them (ala Mayweather, Lara, Cotto fights). There is one scenario where he may give up the weight advantage ... if the black fighter is clearly aging out and diminishing (as Kovalev (not black) was).

Second, there really aren't many champ-level black fighters in Canelo's path at the moment. Fighting at Super-Middle, he can brush off most black fighters in that division as "bringing nothing to the table", unknown, lacking star power, fan-demand, etc. Not a lot of distinguished black fighters at Super-Middle at the moment.

The only black boxer that can merit a Canelo fight right now is Pascal. But Canelo will not go back up to Light-heavy for that fight unless Pascal shows some serious drop-off in skills ... which he hasn't at the moment. Even though Kovalev beat Pascal twice, and Canelo "beat" some version of a Kovalev, Canelo will not go near Pascal at this time.

By the way, a Pascal fight could be a fight of the year right about now, given what Pascal has shown in his last few fights. But, no way Canelo brings up Pascal's name right now. He's been too dangerous lately. I don't think Nelo could figure out a way to "weight-bully" Pascal. Of course if Canelo really wanted to be great, that fight should be being set up right now (before Pascal ages out)!

So, there really aren't any black fighters of star power in Canelo's path at the moment. Charlo would be moving up to Supper-Middle with no fights there. He would get weight-bullied. It may still be a good fight, but a fair fight? Andrade is almost in the same position. Besides, Andrade has no big fights ... it's hard for anyone to really have a clue how he will respond to a Megafight.

It's an unfortunate statement from Crawford in any case, very ill-advised and disappointing.

[ShoulderRoll]

First, Canelo won't fight any champion-level black fighters unless he can have a significant weight (bully) advantage in the fight. He may one day fight Charlo or Andrade, but only with some type of catch-weight whereby he can significantly outweigh them (ala Mayweather, Lara, Cotto fights). There is one scenario where he may give up the weight advantage ... if the black fighter is clearly aging out and diminishing (as Kovalev (not black) was).

Second, there really aren't many champ-level black fighters in Canelo's path at the moment. Fighting at Super-Middle, he can brush off most black fighters in that division as "bringing nothing to the table", unknown, lacking star power, fan-demand, etc. Not a lot of distinguished black fighters at Super-Middle at the moment.

The only black boxer that can merit a Canelo fight right now is Pascal. But Canelo will not go back up to Light-heavy for that fight unless Pascal shows some serious drop-off in skills ... which he hasn't at the moment. Even though Kovalev beat Pascal twice, and Canelo "beat" some version of a Kovalev, Canelo will not go near Pascal at this time.

By the way, a Pascal fight could be a fight of the year right about now, given what Pascal has shown in his last few fights. But, no way Canelo brings up Pascal's name right now. He's been too dangerous lately. I don't think Nelo could figure out a way to "weight-bully" Pascal. Of course if Canelo really wanted to be great, that fight should be being set up right now (before Pascal ages out)!

So, there really aren't any black fighters of star power in Canelo's path at the moment. Charlo would be moving up to Supper-Middle with no fights there. He would get weight-bullied. It may still be a good fight, but a fair fight? Andrade is almost in the same position. Besides, Andrade has no big fights ... it's hard for anyone to really have a clue how he will respond to a Megafight.

It's an unfortunate statement from Crawford in any case, very ill-advised and disappointing.

Jermall Charlo turned down a Canelo fight. According to twin brother Jermell.