Comments Thread For: Vergil Ortiz Drops Maurice Hooker, Stops Him in Seventh

[Cobratu]

Ortiz hasn’t even peaked yet in two years he’ll be one scary guy.

[slimPickings]

Very impressive by Ortiz he is the future of WW

Pretty sure Boots Innis will have something to say about that!!

[slimPickings]

How bout Vergil vs. Speedy! Same side of the street, same promoter! I don't understand how Hooker, who never fought @ 147, got the fight with Vergil b4 Speedy did? What's up with that?

Simple. Hooker has a name and is, to be quite honest , fragile.
Put Hooker in against Boots Innis, the same thing happens except he gets abused worse.

[Cobratu]

Simple. Hooker has a name and is, to be quite honest , fragile.
Put Hooker in against Boots Innis, the same thing happens except he gets abused worse.

Ennis is just another overrated great black hope no one knows nor cares about him he gets his ****ed up. Y Vergil easily.

[slimPickings]

Ennis is just another overrated great black hope no one knows nor cares about him he gets his ****ed up. Y Vergil easily.

It matters little to me whether a fighter is black, brown or green. I respect them all. And want to see them all do well. Only interested in talking fights and fighters not their race.
Boots Innis is good. Make that Very good. Same can be said of Vergil. Their path will cross eventually.

[TJ highway]

So you’re saying he didn’t do a good job??????

I'm giving him major props. I thought I made that clear.

[whollisboxing]

It matters little to me whether a fighter is black, brown or green. I respect them all. And want to see them all do well. Only interested in talking fights and fighters not their race.
Boots Innis is good. Make that Very good. Same can be said of Vergil. Their path will cross eventually.

I feel the same way. Ortiz Jr. vs Ennis could be a super fight in two years if both keep winning.

[theface07]

Still not impressed with either. Average skills overall. Action fight tho.

He's already fought better competition than your boy Tank though. Tank has power but when is he gonna fight someone legitimate who's actually in his weight class? Oh wait, he may be in prison before that. I'm no Tank hater, he's incredibly exciting but if he doesn't watch out he's on his way to Broner 2.0.

[Someone88]

Wow! Great win for Ortiz!

[Doubledagger]

I wasn't even talking about the amateurs dude, I know all about the limits there.. I'm talking about his pro fights, in addition to that both Porter and Thurman are short about 5'7 5'8 so they are welterweights. Porter even made 144lbs for the Broner fight. Spence is about 5'10 and closer if not the same size as Lara...and naturally bigger than both J rock and Lubin imo.. and like I said even Floyd has stated Spence is a big guy anyway and needs to move up when he had trouble getting fights, like he did..and the way and tone he said in, it was like he was saying why is dude even at welterweight lol

I don't really have a problem when a guy is young squeezing down to 147 but once a guy is over 30 years old and walking around at 180lb+ in between fights it's like come on now, look at what Canelo is doing as short at he is, that's greatness when you're able to fight at your real weight not a disguise with a built in advantage....

and rumor has it Spence was having trouble with 154 pounders and that's the real reason he competes at weltweweight, and he's even said himself he only feels about 70% at welterweight, probably why he doesn't want to face Crawford because he know he isn't 100%

Doesn't matter if you're not talking about the amateurs, the fact that you made that comment just shows you didn't understand a single word I said.

All of those guys started above welterweight is the point, Spence is no different to any other career welterweight.

Seperating the amateurs from the pros is also ****** in this context.

You have to be an amateur before you become a pro, and if the weight limit is different in the amateurs it OBVIOUSLY affects how you start in the pros. Common sense.

Thurman and Porter also started above 147 in the pros for the SAME EXACT reason as Spence. That was the point you missed completely.

Loom at their earlier fights, just like Spence, above 147lbs.

In fact unlike Thurman and Spence, Porter wasn't even fighting at the WELTERWEIGHT limit of 152lbs, he was fighting at freaking 165lbs, 165lbs! We talking about the guy who fought and beat Danny Jacobs and Alexander Usyk in the amateurs.

You cannot excuse Thurman and Porter while criticising Spence for doing the EXACT same thing. You either excuse them all or blame them all.

Finally, your assertion that Spence struggles with guys his own size is completely false.

Spence spars Jermell Charlo regularly and rumours are that Jermell is always getting beat up by Spence.