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  • Marchegiano
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    #21
    Originally posted by REDEEMER

    Sugar Hill wasn’t in position to train Klitschko at that time it was either Banks or Ali Bashir ,Steward Hill was still thinking about boxing career at that time .

    What would that have to do with him as a trainer for Fury a decade later ?


    I didn’t say anything about a guru ,some trainers just merge with certain fighters ,you don’t have to be a guru ,Fury isn’t a stranger to Kronk gym he wanted the training camp to be more aggressive.

    You just don’t know what you’re talking about .

    You are striking out with everything today ,I guess it’s normal though nothing new .
    god you're dumb.

    I didn't bring up Klitschko, you did, I just told you Sugar had **** all to do you with Wlad and you're here saying yup like as if it's me who should be embarrassed by the dumb **** you say.

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    • theface07
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      #22
      Originally posted by Marchegiano
      Like Peter and Ben before him Sugarhill is a man whose opinion mattered to no one prior to him hitching a wagon to the Fury train.
      Says the guy who's opinion doesn't matter at all. You're still rolling with the disgraced, delusional, one trick pony Wilder huh? I admire your dedication but not your judgement.
      Sugar Hill knew enough to bring Fury's weight up and turn him into a come forward wrecking machine against the no inside game Wilder, backing him up and taking him out, something that no one outside of Tyson, Sugar and and John Fury though was even possible. Keep trashing a solid trainer who did what the large majority of the boxing world thought was impossible though.

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      • Marchegiano
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        #23
        Originally posted by theface07

        Says the guy who's opinion doesn't matter at all. You're still rolling with the disgraced, delusional, one trick pony Wilder huh? I admire your dedication but not your judgement.
        Sugar Hill knew enough to bring Fury's weight up and turn him into a come forward wrecking machine against the no inside game Wilder, backing him up and taking him out, something that no one outside of Tyson, Sugar and and John Fury though was even possible. Keep trashing a solid trainer who did what the large majority of the boxing world thought was impossible though.
        Loyalty is a dead art.

        He's got one fighter, he's not done anything with anyone else worth mention, and, Fury had already told the world he's figured out in the last round of their first fight the way to beat Wilder is to keep pressure on him.

        It's not trash talk to be skeptical. He's getting favoritism for being related to someone we all respect. The world was skeptical of Peter and Ben, but, Sugar, whose done nothing outside of Fury and nothing with Fury that other trainers couldn't have provided, gets a freepass on skepticism because his uncle doe?
        Last edited by Marchegiano; 03-18-2021, 05:44 PM. Reason: '

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        • Toffee
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          #24
          Originally posted by steeve steel

          Fury has weaknesses, but there is no way Joshua will outbox him. Just won't happen. And he won't fight him like he fought Wilder; it will look more like the Klitchko fight.
          In terms of style I think similar. I can't see him taking his Wilder 2 approach. There's too much trouble waiting on the way in.

          i think he'll be a slightly more agressive version of the Klitschko fight as he can't rely on Joshua not throwing a right hand. And that's what has always been behind my confidence in Joshua. That would be Fury effectively fighting Joshua's boxer/puncher style. Albeit in a less orthodox way.

          i just think it's a bad style match-up for Fury.

          if Fury beats Joshua then he'll have shown something pretty special. Not because Joshua is especially great (he's certainly very, very good) but because he'll have beaten the guy who should have the edge in styles.

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            #25
            Joshua is a s*** house nowadays, people who think he's going to come out all guns blazing are deluded.

            Joshua will try and box Fury

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              #26
              Originally posted by Marchegiano

              god you're dumb.

              I didn't bring up Klitschko, you did, I just told you Sugar had **** all to do you with Wlad and you're here saying yup like as if it's me who should be embarrassed by the dumb **** you say.
              Except you asked me a question or made an assumption why Hill didn’t train Klitschko is what you brought up because you have very little boxing knowledge ,you’re the only one on the forum that refers to Povetkin as a bum , you’re just plain dumb .


              Sugarhill was so important to the Klitschko camp that's why Steward put Banks in charge huh?

              I answered the above ,when you assumed Hill the nephew of Steward was in a position to train Wlad back then and thought that was a point for you to bring up ? Ha
              Last edited by REDEEMER; 03-19-2021, 06:11 AM.

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              • Marchegiano
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                #27
                Originally posted by REDEEMER
                Except you asked me a question or made an assumption why Hill didn’t train Klitschko is what you brought up because you have very little boxing knowledge ,you’re the only one on the forum that refers to Povetkin as a bum , you’re just plain dumb .


                Sugarhill was so important to the Klitschko camp that's why Steward put Banks in charge huh?

                I answered the above ,when you assumed Hill the nephew of Steward was in a position to train Wlad back then and thought that was a point for you to bring up ? Ha
                No, I didn't.

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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Marchegiano

                  Yeah, that's all anyone can tell me, but him Kronk doe, but him related to Steward doe. That's why no one gave a **** prior to Fury making his name for him. Fury, who had told the world he figured out Wilder in the 12th of the first. Yessir, super important opinion.

                  Just like how Peter's a Fury and them Fury's come from a long line....who? **** if anyone knows, **** if anyone cared before Tyson told them to.

                  And like how Ben was just some ******* with a leprechaun voice before Fury and now he's a real trainer too.

                  Hitched a wagon, didn't do a goddamn thing. I don't give a **** who is uncle is or what he is associated with, dude's done **** all.
                  **** all about Wlad

                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  Showed Fury how to throw punches correctly though didn’t he ? Ha

                  What are you babbling about anyway you said you never been in a gym before , what you said could apply to most up and coming trainers ,he also didn’t hitch a ride he used to spar Fury and Fury asked for him to be his trainer so he would have extended knowledge being in Klitschko camps and around Emmanuel .
                  Hmm, Manny didn't train Vitali, so your ass must mean Wlad. Who was trained by Banks not Steward.

                  Hell, I didn't even ask you ****. My post you're responding to was directed at War Room. Your dumb ass asserted a Wlad connection out of nowhere.


                  Originally posted by REDEEMER
                  Except you asked me a question or made an assumption why Hill didn’t train Klitschko is what you brought up because you have very little boxing knowledge ,you’re the only one on the forum that refers to Povetkin as a bum , you’re just plain dumb .


                  Sugarhill was so important to the Klitschko camp that's why Steward put Banks in charge huh?

                  I answered the above ,when you assumed Hill the nephew of Steward was in a position to train Wlad back then and thought that was a point for you to bring up ? Ha

                  Asked what? You told me Sugar had **** all to do with Wlad, I told you he doesn't, then you say, yep. Like as if you're lost in your own bull****.

                  Originally posted by REDEEMER

                  Sugar Hill wasn’t in position to train Klitschko at that time it was either Banks or Ali Bashir ,Steward Hill was still thinking about boxing career at that time .

                  What would that have to do with him as a trainer for Fury a decade later ?


                  I didn’t say anything about a guru ,some trainers just merge with certain fighters ,you don’t have to be a guru ,Fury isn’t a stranger to Kronk gym he wanted the training camp to be more aggressive.

                  You just don’t know what you’re talking about .

                  You are striking out with everything today ,I guess it’s normal though nothing new .

                  What a ****ing clown. Brings up Klitschko then explains he had little to nothing to do with Klistchko for me. Yes, I'm the one who just doesn't know what I am talking about. Clearly. Mook

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                  • steeve steel
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Toffee

                    In terms of style I think similar. I can't see him taking his Wilder 2 approach. There's too much trouble waiting on the way in.

                    i think he'll be a slightly more agressive version of the Klitschko fight as he can't rely on Joshua not throwing a right hand. And that's what has always been behind my confidence in Joshua. That would be Fury effectively fighting Joshua's boxer/puncher style. Albeit in a less orthodox way.

                    i just think it's a bad style match-up for Fury.

                    if Fury beats Joshua then he'll have shown something pretty special. Not because Joshua is especially great (he's certainly very, very good) but because he'll have beaten the guy who should have the edge in styles.
                    Before the Wilder 2 fight, many thought Fury was relatively feather fisted for a big heavyweight. But he really improved on sitting down on his punches, and once Joshua feels the power jab and a few right hands, I think he will start running like in the Ruiz fight. I see a wide margin decision for Fury.

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                      #30
                      I got AJ winning the first fight. Fury is a guy that has to be hungry and doubted to be at his best. He’s going to be hearing he’s the favorite after what he did to Wilder.
                      A motivated Fury comes back and takes the rematch.

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