Comments Thread For: Report: Tyson Fury, Anthony Joshua Sides Have Signed Off On 2-Fight Deal; Date, Site TBD

[Monty Fisto]

We have had a steady stream of information building up to this. Warren saying it is close. Arum saying it is close. Hearn saying an announcement will be made in a few days. Then this announcement.

There are a few on these boards who've pinned their colours to the mast of this fight not happening (Joshua scared doe; Hearn a liar doe; Wilder can block it doe), so that is why there is some bltching.

[DougalDylan]

Wilder ran from the Klitchko's, Martin, Parker and Joshua.

You can try to argue anyone but not the lot the guy has always been afraid to back himself and lacks self-confidence.

Wilder has always thought of himself as a baby heavyweight not ready for the big time and kicked the big fight down the line.

What does that have to do with him running for Wilder?

I didn’t say he was AFRAID of FURY

I SAID HE RAN FROM WILDER AND HE STILL IS.

He is STRAIGHT BYTCH AND THIS PROVES IT

[FreezeIzGawd]

mots true that Joshua has allowed this fight, he could easily have demanded more being the bigger attraction. Wilder was offered various deals upto $120mil so has no one but himself to blame for refusing the fights.

joshua has the strongest record of any live heavyweight so no one can legitimately question / claim he ducks.

povetkin
whyte
parker
ruiz
klitscko
takam
pulev
ortiz (Ortiz rejected)
miller (failed test)
etc etc

Why don’t AJ fans see that this actually works against them?

If he could agree to come over to the US to fight Ruiz then why couldn’t he agree when Wilder offered him 50 million?

If he could agree to a 50/50 split with Fury then why couldn’t he do the same with Wilder?

You are right he has agreed to fight and reached an agreement to EVERYONE

BUT

Wilder.

Why couldn’t he with Wilder.

IT IS BECAUSE HE WAS SCURRRRRED!!!!!

[REDEEMER]

Thanks for confirming. So they'd agreed to a two fight deal last year (or whenever it was) but nothing had been signed until now?

If that's the case then this is definitely good news.

Yea even in a rematch the venue doesn’t need to be in place . When A.J vs Wlad was going to have the rematch they were deciding on Vegas nothing was confirmed right away .

Sometimes I wonder if these guys read boxing scene because I went into detail yesterday how the site venue and date is not real news to postpone a fight , and here we are . Ha

You can do separate clauses involving a date and location to be decided on . The important thing is signatures,anything else is irrelevant because you can’t fight period without each fighters consent . Fury vs Wilder was agreed and signed to months before a date and venue ,people really have selective memory on here .

[Monty Fisto]

If you look at the Ring's rankings for HW, of the current top 7 (of which Joshua could face 6, as he is one of the 7), Joshua has faced 4 of them, is signed to fight #1 and made offers to fights the other two, who turned it down.

[Bob]

mots true that Joshua has allowed this fight, he could easily have demanded more being the bigger attraction. Wilder was offered various deals upto $120mil so has no one but himself to blame for refusing the fights.

joshua has the strongest record of any live heavyweight so no one can legitimately question / claim he ducks.

povetkin
whyte
parker
ruiz
klitscko
takam
pulev
ortiz (Ortiz rejected)
miller (failed test)
etc etc

Klitschko 41 shot retired a year & a half & only age beat Klitschko that night not Aj. Povetkin 38 old limited & slow only good for 4-5 rounds
Parker (ref stopped parker every time he hit back)
Ruiz ranked 15 rag dolled Aj or andy johnson as he known in America
Takem 38 old limited & slow not top 10 (ref again)
Pulev old very slow & limited
& Whyte ranked 21 when they boxed.
Hearn signed Ortiz to box Aj but Mcracken didn't want him any where near Aj along with Wilder. Funny how Aj ducks Wilder turning down a srtaight 50 mill with Hearn quoting it's because of no venue or date. Yet here we are xD
Etc etc

4 of Ajs last 6 opponents were so old bitd they would have been exhibitions in between defences & not worthy of a mandatory or title shot.
Fury will be Ajs first top 2 heavyweight I'm not going to say Fury's is amazing because its not. But he has boxed 2 world number 1s & long standing champions in they're own back yards for all the belts as the underdog. Those are legacy fight's that will be remembered... The best against the best. This will be Ajs first. Though that Klitschko fight daaam

Miller... Seriously xD a fat juicy can with no resume xD

[Bob]

Wilder ran from the Klitchko's, Martin, Parker and Joshua.

You can try to argue anyone but not the lot the guy has always been afraid to back himself and lacks self-confidence.

Wilder has always thought of himself as a baby heavyweight not ready for the big time and kicked the big fight down the line.

Wilder was in negotiations with Martin but got out bid with that Dazn cheddar.

Parker was all but agreed & was supposed to stand up in the crowd to promote the fight but guess what... Hearn blew Wilder out of the water with that Dazn cheddar.

Aj then said in an interview in 18 with Johnny Nelson "i won't be rushed into the Wilder fight" when asked when he said"19 20 21"Hearn then said 2020. That's when the Princess lost all my respect.
Then all the bs flat fees happened with Aj even turning down 50 mill because daddy hearn said there's no venue or date, yet here we are with no venue or date.

Yeah there was the dazn 120 a year later which let's face it you & i would take take. But he did already have a tougher fight with Fury after Brazeale lined up.

Klitschko yeah Wilder ran like a biarrrtch xD

[billeau2]

How do you sign off on something with no date, time or venue?

Contracts are weird beasts... A contract can be strictly for performance... As in this case. what happens then is that it is implied that the fighters need certain things to perform... So for example, you don't have to make a contract with a plumber to come fix a pipe in your place... it is expressed/implied by the consideration (the amount you pay). However, if the plumber gets there and you have no pipes to fix, you cannot hold the plumber for a breach, in essence the contract is voided at that point.

In this case, this signature implies Joshua and Fury will perform, provided there is a certain type of venue, etc. Conditions that are met.

Idiots like Redumber assume that this signature guarantees this fight. it is in fact a good step, but it cannot guarantee performance until a suitable venue, and other details are ironed out. We may well hear of one side, or the other making certain demands related to those details not ironed out.

Also, I adore Fury but he has problems that might hinder performance down the line. I am perhaps in the minority here, but I tend to think Fury can be quite candid and what I heard from him in the last interview is that he has to try to get back on track. Waiting for fights really messes him up, and this fight is a bit of a ways off assuming we can trust the untrustworthy Arum that a venue can be found for June, or July. Fury has a hell of a time controlling his demons.

[FLY TY]

People are still complaining??!??

I do not know for sure, and I realize I am only a person of average intelligence, but isn' announcing a HW unification fight supposed to be a good thing?

The point is, the guy signed a contract that afforded the champion a rematch should he lose. Wilder didn't have to fight Fury the first time, let alone give the man a rematch after the draw.

Now, Fury is trying to wiggle out of a contract that he signed, and take another fight. Nobody’s opposed to undisputed, but how can anyone call themselves undisputed when you owe a guy a fight?

[REDEEMER]

Contracts are weird beasts... A contract can be strictly for performance... As in this case. what happens then is that it is implied that the fighters need certain things to perform... So for example, you don't have to make a contract with a plumber to come fix a pipe in your place... it is expressed/implied by the consideration (the amount you pay). However, if the plumber gets there and you have no pipes to fix, you cannot hold the plumber for a breach, in essence the contract is voided at that point.

In this case, this signature implies Joshua and Fury will perform, provided there is a certain type of venue, etc. Conditions that are met.

Idiots like Redumber assume that this signature guarantees this fight. it is in fact a good step, but it cannot guarantee performance until a suitable venue, and other details are ironed out. We may well hear of one side, or the other making certain demands related to those details not ironed out.

Also, I adore Fury but he has problems that might hinder performance down the line. I am perhaps in the minority here, but I tend to think Fury can be quite candid and what I heard from him in the last interview is that he has to try to get back on track. Waiting for fights really messes him up, and this fight is a bit of a ways off assuming we can trust the untrustworthy Arum that a venue can be found for June, or July. Fury has a hell of a time controlling his demons.

You said Arum was lying and Fury was telling the truth just yesterday claiming the fight doesn’t look like it’s happening ,you should just let it go and discussing plumbing is only going to confuse that other poster .

All the jibberish you posted to do damage control only confuses people because it’s exactly that , jibberish .

You could have just said a sighed contract ensures the fight happens ,barring no injuries and or postponements for any particular reason but you aren’t that subtle ,you have to go into zany stories as though you know what you’re talking about which was proving , you don’t ,silly Billy taking more L”s as usual .