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  • just the facts
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    #11
    Originally posted by _original_
    It was a close fight and you could make a case that Estrada won. We need a trilogy here, fanboys always cry robbery over super close fights.
    Please tell me which 7 rounds Estrada could have won.

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    • SilverMiles
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      #12
      I'm in agreement, the same ones saying the Gallo v Gonzalez 2 was closed also help create the false narrative that the first fight was close. In reality, both was clear decision wins for Gonzalez. The first fight scored 116-112 for Gonzalez was right on, while the 2nd fight was a jobbing.

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      • moochi
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        #13
        Choc won clearly, zero point for a 3rd match and TBH quite disappointed in Estrada... I don't know what happened in the SSR fight, it looked like he (SSR) wasn't mentally there for the first 8 or 9 rounds, was very weird.

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          #14
          Originally posted by moochi
          Choc won clearly, zero point for a 3rd match and TBH quite disappointed in Estrada... I don't know what happened in the SSR fight, it looked like he (SSR) wasn't mentally there for the first 8 or 9 rounds, was very weird.
          I remember SSR fighting outside of his normal style for most of the fight when he was losing, then he changed back and looked the much better fighter for the last few rounds.

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          • Boxfan83
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            #15
            Originally posted by Nash out
            Whilst I enjoyed the fight, Gonzalez won so clearly 116-112, that giving that he also won the first fight many years ago, I see little reason. He was just 1-2 steps ahead of Estrada all the way through. I'm no longer interested in results determined by judges' scorecards. I watched the fight, and Gonzalez won clearly, simple as that. I would not watch a third fight.

            I'd be more interested in Gonzalez vs Rungvisai 3, as their first fight was very close, and given Gonzalez's career, and clear superiority over Estrada, who is 1-1 with Rungvisai, I think he deserves a third crack at Rungvisai.
            Were you crying for Cuadras when he was robbed by bias HBO and Roman Gonzalez?

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            • Tatabanya
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              #16
              Srisaket himself is not the same anymore, I believe. In an eventual third fight with Chocolatito, I'd put my money on the latter to win clearly.

              Remember when Duran was deemed finished after getting knocked out by Hearns, then won a middleweight belt vs Iran Barkley three years later.

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                #17
                Originally posted by Nash out

                I remember SSR fighting outside of his normal style for most of the fight when he was losing, then he changed back and looked the much better fighter for the last few rounds.
                He said he had trained orthodox because his team assumed that Estrada would train for southpaw, and in the rounds he assumed Estrada was setting a trap, which is why (according to him) he didn't switch back. He started southpaw, rounds 1-2, then switched orthodox and didn't switch back until like round 9 or something like that.

                The problem is, Estrada DID train for southpaw, but it didn't matter, because Srisaket was still hitting him at will.

                The mistake Srisaket made was assuming Estrada was setting a trap for him when it was clear, in the southpaw stance, Estrada not only had NO answer, Srisaket's power was superb. Even if Estrada was setting a trap it wouldn't have made any difference, which is why Srisaket won the first fight.

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                  #18
                  Originally posted by Tatabanya
                  Srisaket himself is not the same anymore, I believe. In an eventual third fight with Chocolatito, I'd put my money on the latter to win clearly.

                  Remember when Duran was deemed finished after getting knocked out by Hearns, then won a middleweight belt vs Iran Barkley three years later.
                  He's certainly not the beast he was, after that girl left him, but what really tanking him was getting civilized.

                  Before he met Choco, he was training in jungles and eating grilled rat.

                  Before Estrada 2, he had paired with Freddie Roach, someone big signed him (Golden Boy maybe?), he was all neat and clean training in a regular gym, he specifically said he wasn't eating grilled rat anymore, etc.

                  When I saw that Roach picture, I knew it was curtains for that rematch.

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                  • Jdasilva2012
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                    #19
                    I definitively agree with you 100% but it seems that there's aways a mafia behind Mexican star fighters of this generation (please don't talk Canelo...that's well documented already) but really I was socked with the decision but not surprised. And hey Estrada gave a great fight, he is a great champion and proved to have a good chin but all this mess is not his fault, the man is a good fella.

                    Said that, Choco has nothing else to prove against Estrada and I don't want a rematch with the sturdy Rungvisai. Remember that styles make fights! and I know Choco can beat him being disciplined but deep inside me, I know at the first exchange; he will go toe to toe with that blood sucker.

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                    • just the facts
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Boxfan83

                      Were you crying for Cuadras when he was robbed by bias HBO and Roman Gonzalez?
                      Cool story bro! Not a bit true but cool story.

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