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  • #31
    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
    I have a feeling BJS is going to dominate Canelo

    Go and watch the lara fight its going to look very similar
    Sure if you think Lemuix is better than Canelo...

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    • #32
      Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post
      Nobody really knows how good Saunders is, for me? The way to beat Alvarez is movement, with fast ambush type assaults 'Alvarez is quite a static fighter, and likes to fight at a droning pace'.

      From Middle Weight to Light Heavyweight the competition is below par in my opinion, that is one of the major reasons why Alvarez is having big success 'I don't think Alvarez would of survived in the 90's or even 2000's in the middle weight divisions'.

      Carl Froch would of beaten down Alvarez, after wading through his attacks.

      Like he did Andre Dirrell?? I always thought Andre won and Carl fought very dirty.

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      • #33
        Originally posted by Shadoww702 View Post

        Like he did Andre Dirrell?? I always thought Andre won and Carl fought very dirty.
        Canelo Alvarez is not strong enough to deter Carl Froch.

        His stamina is also nowhere near good enough to survive.

        Alvarez is not a all-time great middleweight.

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        • #34
          Originally posted by PRINCEKOOL View Post

          Canelo Alvarez is not strong enough to deter Carl Froch.

          His stamina is also nowhere near good enough to survive.

          Alvarez is not a all-time great middleweight.
          If ggg struggled to land on canelo then froch is going to be missing a huge percentage of his punches

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          • #35
            Not likely but possible...

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            • #36
              Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

              If ggg struggled to land on canelo then froch is going to be missing a huge percentage of his punches
              Carl Froch has a better jab and movement than both Alvarez and Golovkin.

              Froch probably hits harder than Golovkin also.

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              • #37
                Originally posted by Citizen Koba View Post
                Lara didn't dominate Canelo... draw was probably fair. I think BJS has the talent and if he'd spent the last 5 years honing that talent by fighting top quality opponents instead of blowing up to 200Lbs between mediocre performances against C listers, he'd have a very good chance. Fighters develop by fighting other good fighters and BJS for all his natural ability has failed to do what he needs to to prepare him for this kinda challenge.

                I wouldn't say Canelo's a more naturally gifted boxer, but he has become one of the best fighters in the world by facing elite or high level opposition over and over. BJS most definitely hasn't.
                This is a great and intelligent observation. Who knows if BJS could do it, but his chances are definitely diminished because he hasn't really sharpened his tools during his prime years.
                That said, Canelo brings pressure like nobody I have seen, so even the slickest version of BJS, even the slickest version of Mayweather may not be able to keep this 2021 version of this lad off of them. He is that good. Golovkin is an absolute come forward monster (forget the haters on here, Canelo and GGG are legit HOF fighters who battled in two great fights) - and Canelo actually backed GGG up at times (I hope they fight again as it's 1-1 in most people's minds). Anyway, Saunders has the feet of Khan (which troubled Canelo), the quick hands and awkwardness to make it interesting, but he needs to be polished and to believe in himself. Who knows. In my breakdown, I believe that BJS can and will keep Canelo off him for a good chunk of the fight, maybe winning a lot of the first 6 or 8 rounds. But as a boxer, I can tell you winning by moving away from a pressure guy and picking them off from the back foot usually means pot shotting and stealing rounds. This is very tiring as fook mentally and physically and it can feel inevitable that the tide will turn. I think Canelo's pressure will turn the tide, he is simply that good. A super fit, dialed in BJS would be the kinda guy that might just beat this kid, I just can't see him (Saunders) having the dedication and focus to bring that level of ability off the back foot, and while winning rounds, for 12 rounds. Canelo on points after taking over the fight about halfway through. Will be good, as BJS is tough, and when he realizes he is getting behind he will have a fight. Looking forward to it.

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                • #38
                  Originally posted by Divine Hammer View Post
                  it doesn't matter because punk canelo will win via robbery like he has done so many times.
                  Go off yourself you **** commy pos

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                  • #39
                    Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
                    I have a feeling BJS is going to dominate Canelo

                    Go and watch the lara fight its going to look very similar
                    You better be here when Canelo breaks this dude in half and you better give full props no damn excuses

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                    • #40
                      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post

                      Twice against ggg
                      Sorry to burst your bubble but two draws were fine. A narrow GGG win in the 1st fight was also fine.

                      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
                      the judges cards were prefilled against mayweather
                      That was a joke.

                      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
                      Pretty sure they were filled out before the kovalev fight
                      Umm Kovalev was right in the fight at the time of stoppage...? If you want to complain about Kova not throwing his right hand, maybe, but Canelo was doing a bit more

                      Scorecards were 96-94 Canelo (twice) and 95-95 when the fight was stopped. . .that was fair..

                      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
                      And the lara scoring was a disgrace
                      This is fake news. BoxingScene own official scorecard had Canelo winning. It was a bit like GGG 2 where the draw acceptable as was a decision either way. Suggesting scoring was a disgrace is inaccurate

                      Originally posted by Stuntman Mike View Post
                      Oh yeah and the cotton fight was way closer than the judges had it
                      I agree but Canelo definitely won that fight

                      Out of all the fights you mentioned the only ones which were "favorable" are GGG 1 and Floyd Mayweather. The lone Floyd "draw" card didn't matter and a draw was acceptable in the GGG 1 fight...you're really overreaching saying Canelo always gets robberies.

                      If you want to talk about Canelo cheating well you have ground to stand on there but for the most part his fights have been okay. GGG 1 and Floyd were bad cards. GGG 1 draw was acceptable although GGG shouldve gotten the nod (even so, it was a 7-5 decision) but the Floyd fight was far from a draw.

                      GGG 2, Lara, Kovalev, and Cotto were all good scorecards.
                      Last edited by #1PaperChamp; 03-14-2021, 07:38 PM.

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