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  • #11
    Originally posted by JTfloyd View Post

    That's exactly what she (and all the other "feminists" in the media) are trying to do. Last time I checked, men don't have to guilt boxing fans in order to get them to tune in...because they're inherently worth watching...and women boxers aren't. If this low IQ broad actually believed in "equality", then she'd realize that equality of opportunity does NOT guarantee equality of outcome. She will never get Tyson, DLH, Mayweather, or Canelo money, because she'll NEVER be equal to them.
    To be fair to her, she doesn't seem to be asking for Tyson or Mayweather money. The point they make in the article is that she got around $300k headlining against Habazin and Broner got $1m headlining against Santiago and the viewing figures were the same and that is difficult to justify. The reality is that Broner is probably being hugely overpaid rather than her being underpaid, but there is clearly an inequality there.

    No doubt this PPV did poorly and I suspect the whole 'I did it to help the cause' is an after-the-fact rationalisation, but they do have a point when it comes to the viewing figures comparisons. If men sell more tickets/attract higher ratings, they deserve higher pay. If the ratings are the same, it's hard to argue for a discrepancy in remuneration. Once again, I suspect this may be more a case of some male boxers being overpaid their worth rather than female boxers being underpaid (and, in turn, this may all be part of a bigger story about boxing economics in the time of covid).

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

      To be fair to her, she doesn't seem to be asking for Tyson or Mayweather money. The point they make in the article is that she got around $300k headlining against Habazin and Broner got $1m headlining against Santiago and the viewing figures were the same and that is difficult to justify. The reality is that Broner is probably being hugely overpaid rather than her being underpaid, but there is clearly an inequality there.

      No doubt this PPV did poorly and I suspect the whole 'I did it to help the cause' is an after-the-fact rationalisation, but they do have a point when it comes to the viewing figures comparisons. If men sell more tickets/attract higher ratings, they deserve higher pay. If the ratings are the same, it's hard to argue for a discrepancy in remuneration. Once again, I suspect this may be more a case of some male boxers being overpaid their worth rather than female boxers being underpaid (and, in turn, this may all be part of a bigger story about boxing economics in the time of covid).
      I doubt the viewing numbers were the same. For some reason, Broner has a big fanbase still.

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Spray_resistant View Post
        Women's boxing sucks, sorry no one really has any interest in it.
        Wmns boxing is right up there with the WNBA ..........

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        • #14
          If in women boxing the competition doesn't exist it is difficult for them to become popular. Not too many stars in women boxing and no match ups that catches the public imagination.

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          • #15
            Originally posted by Greenfield02 View Post
            ....and I believe if someone like Ann Wolfe who doesn't get the attention as other woman fighters because she was avoided like the Flu and wasn't a pretty girl, would knock shields senseless inside 6 rounds. That's why I have a problem calling her the GOAT, good fighter, but a product of her time and not ATG.
            I agree with you 100% on this. I watched Ann Wolfe fights and enjoyed them. There was a savagery that she had in the ring and she had uncommon power in the female game. Shields possesses skills and I respect her willingness to drop in weight in search of a meaningful fight.

            I typically don't indulge in mythical matchups but I think Wolfe mauls her with a force of violence that Shields has no idea how to handle.

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            • #16
              I totally believe in woman's rights and equality. But that doesn't mean I gotta throw out my hard earned money on crap women's boxing. And listen to foul mouthed women " f " bombing all over the place and my children asking " what does she mean ?? " She talks like a dirty mouthed rapper. Nevermind she can't crack an egg against any opponents. The best she will ever get from me is I'll watch thru a free stream. Hopefully she'll fight Amanda Nunes in her MMA debut. That I'd pay for.

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              • #17
                Originally posted by _Rexy_ View Post

                I doubt the viewing numbers were the same. For some reason, Broner has a big fanbase still.
                Double-checking the specific wording in the article, you are right: her peak viewing figures were the same as Broner's average viewing figures. Still somewhat commensurate. He was paid more than 3X as much with viewing figures that were broadly similar.

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                • #18
                  Womens boxing will never be & should never be taken seriously,its boring,& is kinda like watching castrated men fight, its uncompetitive because women are not manly as required for fighting, besides a few bulldy kes that beat on regular women), women are not built like men no matter how many imbeciles like Shields think they are(its like the WNBA, can't get any dumber than alienating your few customers with hateful woke communist bs(& just like wnba the mens sports profits pay for womens sport to exist but they cry anyways).

                  Only reason womens mma works is because its like a different form of womens mudwrestling that still has appeal unlike womens featherfist boxing.

                  Reminds me of the womens football team who expects the same pay as men,femi****s love using ratings numbers without mentioning that nobody is willing to actually pay to watch them like men,(their ratings only compare to lowest boxing averages not peak figures used which is intentionally misleading for the writers agenda)

                  & regardless of ratings the womens events don't generate nearly as much revenue (its night & day difference) Shields is a moron for giving up guaranteed 350k & crying about it like she deserves more for beating up waitresses,she has the audacity to complain when many p4p men champs like Chocalatito were earning less for fighting killers that cause actual harm.
                  Last edited by kushking; 03-08-2021, 11:25 PM.

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Monty Fisto View Post

                    Double-checking the specific wording in the article, you are right: her peak viewing figures were the same as Broner's average viewing figures. Still somewhat commensurate. He was paid more than 3X as much with viewing figures that were broadly similar.
                    Because regardless of viewing numbers, NoBody is willing to pay to see women fight, unless their hot for sexy factor. And advertiser's hardly pay for womens boxing because they don't drive engagement aside from freak show type appeal. Broner vs some bum is hardly a accomplishment,but even then he brings in paying customers. Plus I highly doubt Shields has high average viewing numbers as opposed to peak which is misleading if it was only for a few minutes...
                    Last edited by kushking; 03-08-2021, 11:24 PM.

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                    • #20
                      Womens boxing might have a chance if the division in it or around it was stacked with vond wards, ann wolf and laila. Shields definitely has that ******, loudmouth, classless broner vibe so she would sell. But its just her so it sucks for her and womens boxing

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