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  • Hot Shyt
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    #11
    Originally posted by Liondw
    De La Hoya was a greater fighter than Canelo is. A better boxer, fought to a fight he arguably won against Mayweather, and he had more variety of skill. The only thing Canelo does better is vicious body punching. Pernell Whitaker would have boxed Canelo's ears off.
    Oscar has better feet and is quicker and probably threw better combinations but I think Canelo is a better counter puncher and has superior defense.

    I agree w/ most here that DLH has fought the better opposition, but if Canelo completes this 5-fight year with who we're expecting him to go up against, it will be more impressive than the DLH year mentioned in the article.
    Last edited by Hot Shyt; 03-03-2021, 01:58 PM.

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    • 57Blues
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      #12
      I agree that Oscar showed class in the above write up. No matter if Oscar made mistakes they seem to hurt himself more then his fighters promoter wise. Would Canelo have gotten the DAZN money without Oscar ?just a quick take there. I like when a fighter/promoter puts the fight game ahead of himself that is what I read there. So much nasty in your face talk in boxing on a constant level glad he did a small pc. and kept it clean. If I say anything Canelo's way it might sound the oppisite of how Oscar handled this interview and past interviews so I will stay silent on that front for this one.

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      • Jab jab boom
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        #13
        Oscar suddenly seems a bit more honest in his assessment of Canelo.

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        • Oregonian
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          #14
          Originally posted by Liondw
          De La Hoya was a greater fighter than Canelo is. A better boxer, fought to a fight he arguably won against Mayweather, and he had more variety of skill. The only thing Canelo does better is vicious body punching. Pernell Whitaker would have boxed Canelo's ears off.
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          Speaking of “arguably won against Mayweather”, Oscar got beat by Felix Sturm. He also got beat by Whitaker. Those were gift decisions. Nobody harps on about them but they love to harp on about Mayweather’s gift decision with Castillo even though he gave him a rematch and then beat him again.

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          • Oregonian
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            #15
            Originally posted by factsarenice
            Oscar fought far better prime competition than any fighter today. That said, Vernon Forest and Winky Wright tried to get Oscar in the ring but had to settle for beating the only two fighters (at that time) with wins over Oscar. In the end Oscar simply wasn't interested in fighting either man.
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            In other words, Oscar ducked both of them.

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            • kushking
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              #16
              Originally posted by Oldskoolg
              No matter what I think of DLH as a promoter he fought the best fighters available, at every point in his career. He fought all time greats past their primes and he fought the modern greats of his time when they were at the top of their games. He rose in weight to take on the beat opponents all the way to middleweight while starting at lightweight, going down to junior lightweight and back up. DLH and Canelo could not be more different in their careers
              This has to be the most bs hypocritical comment of this thread full of them. Theres literally like 5 fighters left between 154-175 who are champ level who Canelo hasn't faced or already signed up for(& 3 of them have a vacant belt)

              Of course you're the same dude defending the 95% of fighters who are older than Canelo & haven't even faced another actual champ yet in their divisions despite holding belts. Canelo has already surpassed DLH in career accomplishments,& despite haters claim, Canelo hasn't blatantly robbed anyone like DLH did Ike Quartey whom schooled him but still lost.(including ggg who deserved no more than the draw he got)
              Last edited by kushking; 03-03-2021, 05:32 PM.

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              • kushking
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                #17
                Originally posted by Hot Shyt

                Oscar has better feet and is quicker and probably threw better combinations but I think Canelo is a better counter puncher and has superior defense.

                I agree w/ most here that DLH has fought the better opposition, but if Canelo completes this 5-fight year with who we're expecting him to go up against, it will be more impressive than the DLH year mentioned in the article.
                Oscar didn't fight better comp,he was just in an era with bigger names,& most the names Oscar fought were nowhere near as impressive as 5'8" ginger beating much bigger guys in divisions nobody could've ever thought possible til recently(Oscar was a giant ww fighting much smaller guys most his career & still losing some) Dlh also lost many of those fights or barely won,or won by robbery. Canelo merely has had 3 fights that haters say he lost despite him obviously not & compubox agreeing completely (like Lara asswhoopin where he was robbed of a kd & landed twice as many power shots all cleanly, or Trout whom everyone now admits got whooped)

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                  #18
                  Oscar's run in '97 was impressive. Those were some good fighters and it's difficult to bring your A-game every fight, especially with so many in the span of a year. I remember the Sweet Pea fight being close but I don't recall feeling outraged at the decision (and I typically was pulling for the underdog).

                  His assessment of Canelo's run was fair and accurate, he kept it classy but I could sense some bitterness. I wouldn't blame him for that either. I think BJS can provide some challenges but I don't see him being able to get.the nod on judges cards.

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                  • budfr
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by Oregonian
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                    Speaking of “arguably won against Mayweather”, Oscar got beat by Felix Sturm. He also got beat by Whitaker. Those were gift decisions. Nobody harps on about them but they love to harp on about Mayweather’s gift decision with Castillo even though he gave him a rematch and then beat him again.
                    No he did not. Oscar beat Mayweather, but got robbed. Whitaker just hugged and ran, lost clearly and the fans were sick and tired of watching a hugger-dancer. Now if you wann talk about gift decisiona, Mayweather, besides his loss to Oscar, lost to Castillo, Maidana, Pacman and was on the verge of losing vs Ortiz before his coward move.

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                      #20
                      Originally posted by Oldskoolg
                      No matter what I think of DLH as a promoter he fought the best fighters available, at every point in his career. He fought all time greats past their primes and he fought the modern greats of his time when they were at the top of their games. He rose in weight to take on the beat opponents all the way to middleweight while starting at lightweight, going down to junior lightweight and back up. DLH and Canelo could not be more different in their careers
                      Right. He was fun to root for or against plus he fought everyone. He was pure entertainment. His biggest legacy might be the fact that he had so many big fights and at the same time they didn’t seem so hard to make. He had the stroke, and he used it to make all the biggest fights he could. I rooted against him a lot of times, but I’ll never not give him his due. He’s done as much for boxing as anybody. His career will look better and better as the years go by.

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