James Toney: "None of The Russian Chumps Want It"

[MJ406]

Y'all hate on Toney yet none of those guys will fight him and instead fight guys that are in worse shape and have no name yet James is a bum. He will not be denied if he keeps at it he will get a good fight at some point.

yea none of the top Heavy's will fight Toney cuz they feel bad for him, and Wlad or Vitali don't want to risk killing him

damn straight Toney won't be denied, lol but how long will it take him to get a good fight?

I do find it slightly odd that Holyfield can get 2 back to back shots at an alphabet belt

yet Toney, who stopped Evander back in 2003

hasn't gotten a title opportunity since the draw with Rahman in 2006

[Heru]

yea none of the top Heavy's will fight Toney cuz they feel bad for him, and Wlad or Vitali don't want to risk killing him

damn straight Toney won't be denied, lol but how long will it take him to get a good fight?

I do find it slightly odd that Holyfield can get 2 back to back shots at an alphabet belt

yet Toney, who stopped Evander back in 2003

hasn't gotten a title opportunity since the draw with Rahman in 2006

He's still too slick for these cats. Remember back when Toney made Rahman quit? After that, when Klitschko needed a replacement for the Povetkin fight fue to AP being injured, he picked Rahman that had just quit instead of Toney.

Toney would definitely give a better fight than Holyfield gave against Ibragimov and Valuev and Evander won one of them. Holyfield's a bigger name and les risk though so I know why he was picked.

[philb]

Toney isn't done, he just needs to get in shape for fights...his defensive skills would be too much for wladimir atleast, all these "contenders" wlad has been feeding off u notice have no head movement, just allowed themselves to get jabbed to death all night enroute to a boring tko......i think toney should go after wlad, lol. Vitali is another story...he's the IVan drago (from rocky) of boxing right now, haha. I don't like their styles, but i give props to Vitali atleast....

[El Angel]

Toney always says stuff that makes me laugh

[King Flawless]

Toney is finished. I hope someone retires him and RJJ as well.

[Klitschko2011]

James Toney DUCKED Wladimir Klitschko

Why won't Toney fight Klitschko?

By Ben Cohen: It was reported recently that heavyweight James Toney rejected an offer of $1.5million to fight WBO champion Wladimir Klitschko.

The Michigan born fighter who started his career at 160lbs, has steadily eaten his way up to 237lbs, beating up many world-class fighters along the way. He has shown absolutely no fear of any of the heavyweights, and has proved his worth at 200lb plus to all those who doubted him.

So why then, has Toney decided not to fight Klitschko in what would certainly be the biggest and most competitive heavyweight fight in years?

It is not as if 'Lights Out' has shown any reservations in fighting the big men of boxing. Officially making his mark in the heavyweight division with a 9th round TKO of veteran Evander Holyfield in 2003, Toney has since been involved with two Heavyweight championship bouts.

In 2005, Toney took on John Ruiz for the WBA belt, and clearly out boxed the ponderous 'Quiet Man', taking a unanimous decision. However, Toney was found to have banned substances in his system (the residuals of medication he was taking for an injury he claimed later), and was stripped of the title.

Toney came back with another good points victory over Dominick Guinn, and was then given another title shot against WBC champion Hasim Rahman in early 2006.

Weighing an enormous 237lbs, Toney boxed well, but was outworked by a fitter Rahman for many of the rounds in the fight. The bout was declared a draw, and Toney again, went home without the belt he has sought so desperately since turning professional in 1988.

Toney has again been offered a shot at the Heavyweight title, this time Klitschko. Uncharacteristically he has backed out saying the money was not good enough.

In the past, Toney has referred to Klitschko as "garbage", calling him a "bum with no chin" and saying he could beat him "with ease".

Klitschko has had an uneasy few years, getting knocked out twice, and looking far from stellar in several of his outings. However, he has recently bounced back with a huge victory over former rival Chris Byrd. The Ukranian bludgeoned Bryd in five extremely one sided rounds, displaying some excellent defensive work and phenomenal punching power.

Could it be that upon viewing the fight with Byrd, Toney does not fancy his chances against the 6ft 5 Klitschko?

Not so, says trainer Freddy Roach.

"Well I wouldn't fight Wladimir Klitschko for 1.5 million dollars", Roach told Secondsout flatly.

"That's not enough money to fight a guy like that for the world championship. For the right price he will fight the right guy. I know he is the mandatory for the winner of the Rahman fight, and maybe he'll get better paid for that," he said of Toney's proposed world title rematch.

And to be fair, this is a good point from camp Toney. Klitschko is probably the most dangerous heavyweight out there, and after all of Toney's training expenses, he would only walk away with a few hundred thousand. For the biggest fight of his life, that is not nearly enough motivation for a man of Toney's age and stature in the game.

And what of the weight? Coming in almost 80lbs over his former middleweight self, Toney has hardly looked serious about fighting someone of the skill and power of Klitschko. He may have been able to get away with it with the John Ruiz's and Hasim Rahman's of boxing, but Wladimir Klitshcko is definitely in a different league.

Will Roach put his foot down about Toney's weight if he was to fight Klitschko for the title?

"The thing is, I don't think I'm going to have to put my foot down", replied Roach quickly.

"I think that James realises that he needs to be in better shape, and if he doesn't realise then he never will. James is his own man, and I've had some talks with him, and he realises he needs to be in better shape. If that can't motivate him, then I don't think anything can. If that doesn't motivate James Toney then he's not going to be heavyweight champion of the world. He is 10-15 lbs away from that title, he knows that and he'll make the adjustments. I'm sure of it."

Having stated that he would come down to under 220lbs if he were to fight Klitschko, does Roach believe that Toney is actually physically capable of making decent weight?

"Its just like when he fought Jirov", he said referring to Toney's magnificent performance all the way down at 190lbs in 2003.

"He knows he can do it."

And if he can't, it would not be wise for him to get in the ring with someone as good as Klitschko.

Bumping this post for the Toney nuthuggers.

[MJ406]

He's still too slick for these cats. Remember back when Toney made Rahman quit? After that, when Klitschko needed a replacement for the Povetkin fight fue to AP being injured, he picked Rahman that had just quit instead of Toney.
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oh please cut the crap .. Toney that fat bucket of lard wasn't doing jack vs Rahman in the second fight till the head clash, caused by Toney

you can say Hasim "quit" but please, Toney benefited largely from the head clash, and looked like rubbish before it happened.

[Frank Martin]

3 time world heavyweight champion? NABO aint even a World title. IBA is not a major title but still world title.

[vitali1999]

Toney isn't done, ...

oh but he is, trust me. Thats why he is fighting a guy with 17 pro fights and 5 loses on his record, and won a disputed decision over a past his prime Oquendo. Toney better retire soon before he gets seriously ****ed up. Hehe

[Sir Tom Jones]

toney is a bit of an ignorant ****. send him in the rin with vitali. should be a laugh/