cotto is talking **** now... but why was he afraid to put the belt on the line before? if not for a thunder of opinions that he would not be pressured for doing so. thats pure bull**** to cotto! i juz hope you'll eat **** when you will taste PACMAN's barrage of powerful punches!
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Postexactly!!!!
nah man... pac was 148.xx against dlh and against hatton... pac did not get any bigger. its possible pac might be a little bigger in this fight... like you say around 150 lbs... but cotto will probably be 160+ lbs... the pic in my sig was a long time ago. using your paradigm, cotto should be 160+ lbs, not 158 lbs.
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That should take care of any dangerous blown up weight come fight night which he didn't have in the past.
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Originally posted by rob6465 View PostI'm tired of all this bickering of idiot cotto and pacquiao fans. No matter what happens in fight Pacquiao will always be remembered as an ATG and cotto will be remembered as a champion who fought some very good fighters and won a whole bunch of fights and lost to a known cheater. Not bad for both fighters.
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Originally posted by prsi View PostOkay we are half way there. Agreed Pacman probably 150 max., but like i said on my previous post that tale of the tape you post, true it was 2 years ago but it was at 147 not 145 and Cotto didn't have at that moment his physical trainer (Landman) who is now in charge of his conditioning and diet.
That should take care of any dangerous blown up weight come fight night which he didn't have in the past.
1) 145 lbs is 2 lbs away from 147 lbs.
2) the physical trainer bit doesn't work because pac also has a physical trainer.
both your supporting arguments are weak. give it up.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Post1) cotto said pac's wins are overrated (diaz, dlh, hatton)
2) cotto said he knows pac's weakness
3) cotto said morales beat pac so he should be able to
4) pac is a former 106 lber
5) pac is untested at 147 lbs
6) cotto has a huge size advantage
yes it does. cotto is talking mad **** (for cotto). cotton has a big size advantage. if cotto can't back up his words and if Cotto can't take advantage of his size advantage, he is a disgrace to himself and his island.
4) Cotto was a 105 fighter at amateur, fighting guys like Calderon. The difference is that Pacman didn't have the Amateur career that Cotto had.
5) Lots of fighter have moved up untested and beat the champion of a higher divison. We are talking about a "p4p" king moving up not a class b fighter.
6) Pacman has a huge speed advantage.
If we are going to call a disgrace a boxer that for a fight couldn't back up what they said we will have a very empty HOF because all the great fighters have once lost saying that they will beat, know there oponents weakness and even discredit some of his previous fights.
Regarding the size advantage it will only be in weight because Cotto is 1/2" taller and they both have the same reach.
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Originally posted by Pullcounter View Postget serious man.
1) 145 lbs is 2 lbs away from 147 lbs.
2) the physical trainer bit doesn't work because pac also has a physical trainer.
both your supporting arguments are weak. give it up.
If you don't think that it doesn't make a difference then you are right I'll give it up because there no sense on discussing with you that has been scientifically and physically proven.
It's your turn to get serious
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Originally posted by oside4life View Postfirst cotto will not come in ****** and reckless like hatton did and two cotto can takes pacs punches seriously pac will **** a brick when he hit him flush and cotto walks through it.
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Originally posted by prsi View Post1, 2, and 3 are part of his opinion and he's entitled to say what he thinks.
4) Cotto was a 105 fighter at amateur, fighting guys like Calderon. The difference is that Pacman didn't have the Amateur career that Cotto had.
5) Lots of fighter have moved up untested and beat the champion of a higher divison. We are talking about a "p4p" king moving up not a class b fighter.
6) Pacman has a huge speed advantage.
If we are going to call a disgrace a boxer that for a fight couldn't back up what they said we will have a very empty HOF because all the great fighters have once lost saying that they will beat, know there oponents weakness and even discredit some of his previous fights.
Regarding the size advantage it will only be in weight because Cotto is 1/2" taller and they both have the same reach.
Originally posted by prsi View PostA physical trainer does work, why do you think they exist. This Physical trainer not only works with his conditioning but with his diet controling what he eats and his metabolism. Why do you think Dr. recomend fiber and other sorts of food to help your health. It's because of the way ou eat and how it reflect on your body specially on the fat that ou naturally gain over the years. Cotto didn't have that in the past.
If you don't think that it doesn't make a difference then you are right I'll give it up because there no sense on discussing with you that has been scientifically and physically proven.
It's your turn to get serious
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Originally posted by fcastro1 View Postbut its so easy to say hatton is overated after pac demolished him. he was unbeaten in his division and atop 10 p4ponder. just look at the malignaggi performance which shows he demolished a decent fighter in malignaggi. the way i see it people will discredit pacs opponents untill he looses or faces mayweather. its realy sad because in hindsite a lot of people were saying he would get beat by oscar and hatton, now he gets close to 0 credit.
See what they say on these fights:
Pac-MAB1: WIN- Barrera had surgery in his head and there was a fire near his camp.
Pac-Morales1: Loss- Pacquiao was schooled.
Pac-Morales2: Win: Morales was weight drained
PAc-Morales3: Win: Morales was old and shot and weight drained.
Pac-JMM: Draw: PAc was schooled from round 2 onwards.
Pac-JMM2: Win: Marquez should've won decision.
Pac-ODLH: Win: De La Hoya was shot and weight drained.
Pac-Hatton: Hatton is an overrated bum.
Come on. The guy works his ass off and comes to fight and wins almost everytime but they always find some ****** excuse. It's as if all he had to do was show up and he would've won.
PBF and Cotto said: "He lost to Morales". Since when did losing to Morales become such a bad thing??? That's THE Erik Morales, Future Hall of Famer.
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