Abraham to fight Taylor in Berlin's O2 arena.

[damned]

The strong, white, Eastern European will DOMINANT the chinny, flashy, gasey American.

LMFAO! my point proven-disrespect from both sides-but on this thread it appears there is more disrespect on one side....

[BattlingNelson]

You lost me-I never mentioned Spinks,nor Holmes.
Yes,there is a market outside of HBO-but HBO and Showtime provide matches worldwide,so its more accessible..

Point being that not every yank superstar is a global superstar.

How does HBO/Showtime provide worldwide matches? I for one has never watched one of their broadcasts.

[damned]

Point being that not every yank superstar is a global superstar.

How does HBO/Showtime provide worldwide matches? I for one has never watched one of their broadcasts.

I never said EVERY "yank" is a global superstar.And you are more likely to find HBO or Showtime (keep in mind-i DO NOT live near America) than a smaller broadcast.It's unfortunate,but they are a big influence.

[Jan(DK)]

Since when was Holmes, Spinks, Mayweather etc. global superstars? Hint: they where never shown in Europe.

This might be news for you, but there's actually a market for boxing outside the HBO broadcasting area.

Hint: You cant watch HBO in EU

[BattlingNelson]

Hint: You cant watch HBO in EU

Hvordan det????

[Clyde Barrow]

Arthur will be stronger at 168, and as always Taylor's stamina will fail him. An early KO over Arthur isn't likely either. Abraham will win this fight and possibly force a late stoppage.

[Jan(DK)]

[QUOTE=damned;5963944]

If Taylor, Dirrell or Ward wins the tournament, they will be huge superstar for sure, but what happens if one of the EU-fighters win



Look-I am anxious for all these fights as well.I can understand your point of view,but people are turned into stars for a few reasons.Time and money invested into these fighters,hype surrounding them,and most importantly (but not the sole reason) on who they beat.The fact is,most people watch American fights,so American fighters are bound to get attention.Their fights are advertised WORLDWIDE.In America,you simply don't get a lot of the European fights,and when they do happen,its usually just a one off.. Europeans don't advertise to the degree that Americans advertise their fighters worldwide.the Klitschkos had a big chance to win over America,but failed to keep fighting there.I strongly believe Vitali would have made a bigger name for himself after the performance of the Lennox fight.Like I said-Americans cheered for him during and after that fight even though he lost.
As far as Taylor,Dirrell,and Ward being stars from this-keep in mind,they are ALL very much underdogs in this tournament.If they win,they deserve the respect from being given no chance by the public,then winning.Also bear in mind,that my view is that whoever wins should still get respect,but as underdogs,there is more to persevere.Make sense?

^^(Be aware - my reply is to DAMNED's post #72.)



Damn good post actually, even though i disagree in 1 or 2 things.

When i read the underlined, i can already hear this if Kessler wins it all:

"Taylor was shut, and Dirrell and Ward was overrated big time. Kessler only achievement so far is a lose to Calslappy and a lot of wins against nobodies. Taylor in his prime and Hopkins and Jones at present would easily beat Kessler."

Back in the good old days, i remembering to stay up to 4-5 am to watch the great fights including Ali, Foreman, Frazier and.... US was the boxing mecca and there fighters was ATG, but there was a lot a good fighters in Cuba and Eastern Europa who couldn't participate.

It seems, than when the US-fighters were the best - the level of boxing was extremely high, but now, when the US-fighters isn't the best, somehow the level af boxing is at an all time low ??

I give Kessler, Froch and Abraham a lot of credit to join this tournament - they have a lot / belts at stake!. And of cause huge credit to Taylor, Dirrell and Ward - but they have a lot to gain..........right ??

Could you honestly think of a prime Wright, Hopkins or Jones joining a tournament against Ottke/Calzaghe and 2 young and talented EU-fighters who they have to face in there backyards............. NOOOOO !!!!

I think Show Time has come to the conclusion: Let HBO show old US vs. old US III in US................ and we will show boxing for the world!!!.

Make any sense ?

[Jan(DK)]

Hvordan det????

I was just trying to back up your statement

"You can't watch HBO in Europe"

Sikkert pisse-dårligt engelsk, men mente: Du kan sgu ikke engang se HBO's kampe i europa!

Håber sandelig ikke, at min gamle engelsklærer er boksefan !!

[BattlingNelson]

I was just backing up your statement

"You can't watch HBO in Europe" .. OK ?

Ok. I misread it. I was kinda hoping you knew how to watch HBO/Showtime.

[Ray*]

Finally, An american star that actually can say he fought outside of the USA.