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  • #11
    Originally posted by Stoppage View Post
    Manny Pacquiao for sure.

    based of what criteria? Mannys first 35 fights were in the Philippines vs NOBODIES and got KO'ed twice....his record is severely padded, did you take that into consideration? Also have you compared their resumes? Because if you did there is no way you would ever say "Manny for Sure"

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    • #12
      Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
      based of what criteria? Mannys first 35 fights were in the Philippines vs NOBODIES and got KO'ed twice....his record is severely padded, did you take that into consideration? Also have you compared their resumes? Because if you did there is no way you would ever say "Manny for Sure"
      Are you lonely there at the bottom?

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      • #13
        Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
        based of what criteria? Mannys first 35 fights were in the Philippines vs NOBODIES and got KO'ed twice....his record is severely padded, did you take that into consideration? Also have you compared their resumes? Because if you did there is no way you would ever say "Manny for Sure"
        You know what?? If you really love your BF Floyd that much, you might as well help him sell his fight tickets. How about convince us that Floyd is the most exciting fighter. Maybe you can help him sell his Fight.

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        • #14
          Originally posted by Pacdbest View Post
          And you forgot that Pac started as Pro at age 16. When PBF was 16, he's losing to the likes of Martin castillo & some other Russian. And that was with protective headgear. When PBF was 19, he's still fighting bums. Pac was already a Lineal Champ at age 19.

          Pac has HOF bound mAB, EM, JMM, DLH in his resume. PBF has only DLH. PBF has Great skills but he never Challenge himself. While Pac is keep on Challenging himself & Fighting the best available Fighters like Cotto, PBf was busy dodging the Greatest Threat.

          Only the Floyd **** suckers will think that PBF was Greater than Pac.
          Mayweather has an extensive ameture career, so the fact that Manny turned pro @ 16 before Mayweather doenst mean much. Is that your argument?...lol..I can see it now...YOU in a debate with someone on why Manny is greater than PBF and you discredit Pac's first 35 fights stating that "well those dont count cause he started his pro career early, he was just learning"


          I mean I dont want to discredit your rebuttal but you stated no evidence as to why Pac is greater than Mayweather......I mean just the fact that you said...."How Come Pac will be fighting Cotto while PBF will waste time with Pac Victim JMM?" lets me know where your head is at. If thats the case then why did Pac waste time fighting DLH & Hatton?

          and I love how you bring up Mayweathers ameture fight with Martin Castillo....

          I believe them to be great fighters, but no way Pac is a greater fighter than Mayweather....

          tell me this, before Manny fought DLH did u consider him to be a greater fighter than Mayweather? Also what is your reasoning for placing Pac over Mayweather? Skill? Resume? Personality? Record?..

          just wondering

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          • #15
            Originally posted by ThunderWolf View Post
            Are you lonely there at the bottom?
            Im not into the whole yippity yappin and talking **** back and forth thing that people seem to love on here....I stated why I thought Mayweather is the greater fighter, and you have not. I just want to know based of what criteria do you place Pac over Mayweather...thats all...

            its easy to come in a thread and say..."Manny" without stating why....

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            • #16
              that depends on how the last couple years of each of there careers go. i would say floyd is more talented but manny is more of an exciting fighter. floyd wins a match between the two so as of now i would say floyd

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              • #17
                Originally posted by Pacdbest View Post
                You know what?? If you really love your BF Floyd that much, you might as well help him sell his fight tickets. How about convince us that Floyd is the most exciting fighter. Maybe you can help him sell his Fight.
                haha is this the same PacDbest from http://www.********boxing.com?<img s..."inlineimg" />

                and you're more of a PAC FANATIC than I am a Mayweather supporter

                damn man some of you Pac fans are blinded by your love for him. You still have yet to state why you would rate Pac over Mayweather....I mean damn you cant come into a debate or discussion with empty revolving door rhetoric.

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                • #18
                  Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
                  Well being that Mayweather was already considered a greater fighter than Pac b4 he retired and since then Pac beat DLH & Hatton...why would it change..People forget that Pac fought his first 35 fights in the Philippines against virtual NOBODIES & in 2 of those fights he was KO'ed............he has got better, but when Pac was LEARNING from Freddie Roach Mayweather was already dominating

                  Mayweather has beat a better array of fighters and is the better boxer by miles over Pac....Pac has 3 losses (2 by KO) and a Draw on his record....(although I dont believe wins and losses matter, but when comparing these fighters to each other, its only fair to do so)

                  Now im not saying Pac isnt a great fighter but he is not, and will not be rated higher that Floyd Mayweather Jr.
                  really now?

                  castillo, coralles, judah & baldomir...

                  now compare those names to morales, barrera, marquez & hatton...

                  borderline HOFs against legitimate ones...

                  and to think he fought morales thrice, barrera & marquez twice...

                  thats 5 ****in times against the best in a golden era of 126-130...

                  as to the second underlined phrase... well, to each his own... ATG lists are personal choices anyway...

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                  • #19
                    Originally posted by Pacdbest View Post
                    And you forgot that Pac started as Pro at age 16. When PBF was 16, he's losing to the likes of Martin castillo & some other Russian. And that was with protective headgear. When PBF was 19, he's still fighting bums. Pac was already a Lineal Champ at age 19.

                    Pac has HOF bound mAB, EM, JMM, DLH in his resume. PBF has only DLH. PBF has Great skills but he never Challenge himself. While Pac is keep on Challenging himself & Fighting the best available Fighters like Cotto, PBf was busy dodging the Greatest Threat. How Come Pac will be fighting Cotto while PBF will waste time with Pac Victim JMM?

                    Only the Floyd **** suckers will think that PBF was Greater than Pac.
                    good points.. where would you place pac on atg (what range) and where would you place floyd?

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                    • #20
                      Originally posted by Jiddu Dali View Post
                      Mayweather has an extensive ameture career, so the fact that Manny turned pro @ 16 before Mayweather doenst mean much. Is that your argument?...lol..I can see it now...YOU in a debate with someone on why Manny is greater than PBF and you discredit Pac's first 35 fights stating that "well those dont count cause he started his pro career early, he was just learning"


                      I mean I dont want to discredit your rebuttal but you stated no evidence as to why Pac is greater than Mayweather......I mean just the fact that you said...."How Come Pac will be fighting Cotto while PBF will waste time with Pac Victim JMM?" lets me know where your head is at. If thats the case then why did Pac waste time fighting DLH & Hatton?

                      and I love how you bring up Mayweathers ameture fight with Martin Castillo....

                      I believe them to be great fighters, but no way Pac is a greater fighter than Mayweather....

                      tell me this, before Manny fought DLH did u consider him to be a greater fighter than Mayweather? Also what is your reasoning for placing Pac over Mayweather? Skill? Resume? Personality? Record?..

                      just wondering
                      Pac takes DLH & Hatton coz Pac hasn't fought at those weight classes. Those 2 fights is the biggest Money available. Pac also Proved he's the Greater Fighter by those 2 fights alone. Pac showed how it's done.

                      Pac already was my No 1 P4P after he Koed Morales the 2nd time. I already Predicted Pac will beat hatton, JMm, DLH & PBF since 2007. One more to go & Pac add a tune up in Cotto. He even beat my Crazy predictions.

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