Insider Notebook: Hopkins vs Williams?, Mosley's Fury

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  • jdubb863
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    #21
    Pac is the same as Mayweather... always complaining about money and avoiding the best fighters.


    Also that dirty **** concepcion doesnt deserve a rematch. They should ban him in america for trying to seriously hurt another fighter. Luevano will school him agian.

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    • flyest1
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      #22
      Originally posted by KJB
      These boxing writers are getting way ahead of themselves. Calling Mosley the "best fighter" Pac or Mayweather could have fought and saying he would have been the hardest to get a win against.
      Despite a lot of the hate he has been getting, Miguel Cotto fought Mosley not too long ago, and he won a clear decision. Saying Mosley is the better fighter or harder fighter to beat is hardly the point of view a journalist should take at this point. With Cotto having beaten Clottey and Mosley, and the Margarito scandal, Cotto is clearly the top WW at this point.
      Well he did beat Margo and that's the same guy who beat the **** out of Cotto. Be real and Cotto's 147 resume an accomplishments are not on Mosley's level yet. A Pac win and a Floyd or another Mosley win will make him the best in that weight. Maybe even ahead of Tito and Hoya

      Frazier beat Ali. Foreman beat Frzier. Ali beat Forman. Was Frazier the #1 HW after that?

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      • Gabilan
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        #23
        Originally posted by Precision
        Thats funny because before the Mosley fight, Margarito was the best welterweight in the world but because Mosley puts a beatdown on him he is all of a sudden overated.

        Lets not forgot that Mosley was a 4-1 underdog going into the fight, it makes me laugh that he gets no credit for winning a fight he was supposed to lose.

        how does Margarito being a cheater take credit away from Mosley also .
        That's very true. It shouldn't. Mosley is a tremendous fighter. What I have a problem with is the short-term memory of some boxing writers. I mean, this is their profession so they should not be afflicted with the same tendencies of the general boxing public. Mosley beat Margarito down but looked pretty average against Mayorga until the last rounds and clearly lost to Cotto. Does that make him the best WW right now? Perhaps, but I am more inclined to argue that right now the question of who the best WW is is up in the air. Until I see PBF fight, Cotto, Mosley, and PWill are clearly my top WWs. If Mosley fights before years end the next couple of months should clear up the current confusion.
        Last edited by Gabilan; 08-20-2009, 11:31 AM.

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        • Pullcounter
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          #24
          schaefer is doing the right thing. pwill is too big and has too much reach on mosley. its a stylistic nightmare for mosley. mosley cannot win.

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          • FLY TY
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            #25
            Originally posted by vitali1999
            Williams Hopkins is a much better fight than Pavalik. And Mosely should fight Berto because everybody looks bad against clotty. But i don't see a Williams vs B-hop fight being made, its just to good to happen.
            i cosign. hopkins will need more than a month to get ready for this fight.....this is all talk as far as i'm concerned....

            Originally posted by Pullcounter
            schaefer is doing the right thing. pwill is too big and has too much reach on mosley. its a stylistic nightmare for mosley. mosley cannot win.
            then perhaps they should not say "shane is ready to fight anybody...."

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            • GRUSTLER
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              #26
              Originally posted by jdubb863
              Pac is the same as Mayweather... always complaining about money and avoiding the best fighters.


              Also that dirty **** concepcion doesnt deserve a rematch. They should ban him in america for trying to seriously hurt another fighter. Luevano will school him agian.
              Did you even read the interview? Mayweather ain't like Pacquiao
              because like Schaffer said, Mayweather reached out to Shane to
              fight him and Shane declined because he was the bigger name
              NOW Floyd did it to him and he is ducking Shane? I swear, some
              people just see what they want.

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              • Jim Jeffries
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                #27
                Originally posted by flyest1
                Well he did beat Margo and that's the same guy who beat the **** out of Cotto. Be real and Cotto's 147 resume an accomplishments are not on Mosley's level yet. A Pac win and a Floyd or another Mosley win will make him the best in that weight. Maybe even ahead of Tito and Hoya

                Frazier beat Ali. Foreman beat Frzier. Ali beat Forman. Was Frazier the #1 HW after that?
                Nice argument, but besides Margarito and Collazo, how many top WWs has Mosley beaten in the last 6 years? Cotto's WW resume over the last 3 years is better and his only loss has an asterisk by it.

                You also forgot to mention that Ali had already avenged his losses to Frazier and Norton by the time he faced Foreman.

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                • Chuckguy
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Matt Marvelous
                  Of course they say that Paul wouldn't be ready to fight Shane @ 147 in October. Bull****. He's only been training for Pavlik for what, a week now? He could easily make it down to 147 by October 3rd to fight Shane. They just know. Shane just knows that Paul would whoop that ass worse than Vernon did. Worse than Winky did. Shane would get hurt like never before.

                  Hopkins @ 170 is a bull**** fight for Paul. He's never been that high and Hopkins is not a good fight for Paul or anybody. Paul could win, but it's not worth it to fight Hopkins at that weight. Hopkins should come back to 160 to make the fight more fair. Maybe 165.
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                  • swizz
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                    #29
                    maybe if shane wouild of looked at other people instead of stalking pac he would of had a fight by now and its not too late for a december date so berto is right there for the taking

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                    • BAlvarez
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                      #30
                      yes because this is exactly what the boxing world needs, another promising and exciting young fighter to face bernard the career derailer hopkins. williams and pavlik needs to be made NEXT so bad that its not even funny

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