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  • Iceta
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    #81
    Originally posted by jazluvr449
    No, i don't think we are, if anything i think we are defending him. He isn't getting much credit for this fight, and even if he does win, he will get less credit than Manny will. If Clottey is so feather fisted, why is he avoided by so many fighters? Clottey is huge, great boxing skills, fast and powerful, agressive, and very, very hungry. He's more detirmined than ever i think to make a name for himself. He's desperate.

    But mostly, he's so much bigger than Pac, it's a really bad matchup more than anything. Not taking away anything from Pac. In fact, he's my 2nd fav fighter.
    If the guy is so hungry than why did he practically quit in the fight against Margarito. He complained about his hand in the fight against Margarito and his corner had to convince him to come out for the next round. Combine this with the fact that he had a dead man in front of him in Cotto who was cut open big time and he let the fight slip away in the last two rounds. Cotto gets props from me for finishing that fight with the cut. But my opinion of his ring ability didn't go up after that fight was over with. And where is Clottey's power? I don't see it. KOs are something he lacks.

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    • Spacey1991
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      #82
      Originally posted by rizilient
      Cotto doesn't run - he strategically retreats.

      BEST BELEE DAT

      Cotto > Clottey and Mosley combined to the power of 4
      What is that in your sig?

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      • MANGLER
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        #83
        Originally posted by Spacey1991
        What is that in your sig?
        Nicky Santoro

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        • savorduhflavor
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          #84
          Originally posted by Iceta
          Another thing that I think makes Cotto hated on in these forums is the fact that his most hardcore fans won't give any credit to any other boxer it seems like unless they have fought Cotto. They constantly down talk Paul Williams and say ****** things like he is ducking Clottey when in actuality, it's the other way around. Arum is the one keeping his boys away from Paul. He tried to stop the Margarito-Williams fight from happening and he stopped the rematch from happening. I also wouldn't be suprised if he made Pavlik pull out of the fight. And here Cotto fans are saying Williams is ducking Clottey when Arum hasn't even put any money on the table for the fight to happen. Williams has already said that he'd be happy to send Clottey back to Ghana in a boat.

          And the fact that Cotto squats on vacant title belts and doesn't make any attempt to clean up his controversial wins is something that also turns me off about him along with his dirty tactics he resorts to when it seems like his will is broken. He also gets paid an excessive amount of money for the mediocre opponents he fights like Gomez and Jennings. He got paid more to fight Jennings than what Mosley got paid to fight Margarito.
          Are you freakin' kidding me? Do you know what "squatting on a belt" is? That is when you win a belt and don't defend it against anyone of note.

          At 140 he defended against Torres, Malignaggi, Corley and many others.

          At 147 he defended his WBA title against Judah, Mosley, Gomez and Margarito, and has defended his WBO title against Clottey, and soon to be Pacquiao.

          I can see why biased people would use the winning vacant belts argument. But only a true ****** would accuse him of squatting on his belts.

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          • jazluvr
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            #85
            Originally posted by savorduhflavor
            Are you freakin' kidding me? Do you know what "squatting on a belt" is? That is when you win a belt and don't defend it against anyone of note.

            At 140 he defended against Torres, Malignaggi, Corley and many others.

            At 147 he defended his WBA title against Judah, Mosley, Gomez and Margarito, and has defended his WBO title against Clottey, and soon to be Pacquiao.

            I can see why biased people would use the winning vacant belts argument. But only a true ****** would accuse him of squatting on his belts.
            Yeah...i think savorduhflavor Got your # on this one. I think you just don't like Cotto, which is cool. I respect your right to your own opinion.
            Peace,
            jaz

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            • Ryn0
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              #86
              Originally posted by rizilient
              Cotto doesn't run - he strategically retreats.

              BEST BELEE DAT

              Cotto > Clottey and Mosley combined to the power of 4
              Prime Mosley>>>>>Prime Cotto

              but he is a good fighter and has a good shot of dethroning Pacman

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              • Iceta
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                #87
                Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                Are you freakin' kidding me? Do you know what "squatting on a belt" is? That is when you win a belt and don't defend it against anyone of note.

                At 140 he defended against Torres, Malignaggi, Corley and many others.

                At 147 he defended his WBA title against Judah, Mosley, Gomez and Margarito, and has defended his WBO title against Clottey, and soon to be Pacquiao.

                I can see why biased people would use the winning vacant belts argument. But only a true ****** would accuse him of squatting on his belts.
                I actually don't make as big of a deal about it as some other posters do, because I realize that Hatton never expressed any interest in fighting Cotto, and the way that Cotto blew Quintana out was impressive. But the fact still remains that Cotto has yet to beat the #1 ranked guy in any division he has fought in. Am I wrong in saying that? And the most blatant case of moving in on a vacant title was after he lost to Margarito. Williams would've happily fought Cotto. But just like every Cotto stan says on this forum says, he needs to get his PPV game up. Sound familiar? And Cotto has never even uttered Paul's name.

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                • MANGLER
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                  #88
                  This is ******.

                  BTW, I really wanna drink Riz. I'm tryin to stay strong tho.

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                  • savorduhflavor
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                    #89
                    Originally posted by Iceta
                    I actually don't make as big of a deal about it as some other posters do, because I realize that Hatton never expressed any interest in fighting Cotto, and the way that Cotto blew Quintana out was impressive. But the fact still remains that Cotto has yet to beat the #1 ranked guy in any division he has fought in. Am I wrong in saying that? And the most blatant case of moving in on a vacant title was after he lost to Margarito. Williams would've happily fought Cotto. But just like every Cotto stan says on this forum says, he needs to get his PPV game up. Sound familiar? And Cotto has never even uttered Paul's name.
                    You completely dodged the question at hand. Does Cotto squat on his belts? The answer is no, and that's not debatable.

                    And no, I don't say **** about Williams being a draw. But, if I was Cotto's manager, there's no way I'd let him fight Williams, RIGHT after he got the ass kicking of a lifetime against Margarito. Did you really expect him to fight Williams right after his loss to Margarito, because that's just simply being unreasonable.

                    You're like Horus trying to respond to me by saying something that had nothing to do with the original argument.

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                    • Iceta
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                      #90
                      Originally posted by savorduhflavor
                      You completely dodged the question at hand. Does Cotto squat on his belts? The answer is no, and that's not debatable.

                      And no, I don't say **** about Williams being a draw. But, if I was Cotto's manager, there's no way I'd let him fight Williams, RIGHT after he got the ass kicking of a lifetime against Margarito. Did you really expect him to fight Williams right after his loss to Margarito, because that's just simply being unreasonable.

                      You're like Horus trying to respond to me by saying something that had nothing to do with the original argument.
                      Okay, let me rephrase it. He has won vacant belts. Are you happy now? I don't have a problem with Cotto taking a tune up after losing Margarito. But don't fight for a title while doing it when the guy who held the belt was the better fighter than the opponent you are fighting against. Is that too much to ask? And don't throw that Mayweather nuthugger **** at me. I don't like him either. I just call it how I see it, and I think both of them are overrated.

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