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  • moochi
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    #31
    Originally posted by Neuraxis
    Hello, Earth to Moochi. DM had one decision win between 1997-2005, and that was against Hill.
    i wasn't bad mouthing him personally, but more the whole german establishment.....

    of Darius' 50 fights, he fought 48 in germany, one in Poland (under the same promoter) and one early early on in Portugal.

    If he was such a great, why didn't he fight in the states? what was he scared of? i am sure that the mecca of boxing is in the states and he would have earned triple his money.....or am i wrong?

    did u say lakatus? do you honestly call lakatus a genuine contender? ....no offence to him, but he is a joke with a big heart, and he troubled erdei too, hence my non-recognition of Erdei being a "champ"..

    do you remember when DM faked being knocked out when he was hit after the bell by rocchigiani?...what a big man he was....what a girl more like it....that was so champion of him, acting dazed out.

    i just hope that professional boxing promotion in german is outlawed sooner rather than later....it is a shame to the sport.

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    • Neuraxis
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      #32
      Originally posted by moochi
      i wasn't bad mouthing him personally, but more the whole german establishment.....

      of Darius' 50 fights, he fought 48 in germany, one in Poland (under the same promoter) and one early early on in Portugal.

      If he was such a great, why didn't he fight in the states? what was he scared of? i am sure that the mecca of boxing is in the states and he would have earned triple his money.....or am i wrong?
      Why should the champion fight in the U.S. for much less money than he would make in Germany. Also you seem to be forgetting how the WBA, WBC, and IBF screwed him. I wouldn't want to fight in the U.S. "the meca of boxing" after that kind of crap either. Quit acting like the only corruption in boxing is in Germany.

      Originally posted by moochi
      did u say lakatus? do you honestly call lakatus a genuine contender? ....no offence to him, but he is a joke with a big heart, and he troubled erdei too, hence my non-recognition of Erdei being a "champ"..
      Lakatus is more of a legit contender than DM's sparing partner Richard Frazier, Telesco, or Glen Kelly.

      Originally posted by moochi
      do you remember when DM faked being knocked out when he was hit after the bell by rocchigiani?...what a big man he was....what a girl more like it....that was so champion of him, acting dazed out.

      i just hope that professional boxing promotion in german is outlawed sooner rather than later....it is a shame to the sport.
      Yeah just like when Wlad faked being KO'd when Brewster hit him after the bell. Is it legal to do that? I think not. At least he gave him a rematch and did what was necassary by completely dominating him.

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      • Anjew
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        #33
        1. DM hadn't any questionable decisions. If you say he had, means you never watched those fights. The only thing we can mention is the first Rocchigiani fight, but hey, wasn't it after the bell or what?
        2. DM never fought in the States, cause he was offered ****ty money. He beat all top American LHW fighters at the time, though (except for RJJ, who didn't feel like going to Germany to geet his ass whooped). ;-)

        3. BS decisions happen everywhere, usually in the States (e.g. Lewis/Holy I, Ruiz/Golota and many more)...

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        • Palma
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          #34
          Originally posted by FibreOptic
          Did anyone see the fight? Was it totally one-sided?

          I saw the fight! It was a good fight. Dariusz was landing some solid shots to the face and body and some good uppercuts in the early rounds. But it didn't seem to hurt his opponent. Than he just got caught by two solid right hooks to the head and anothe rshot to the face as he was going down. I am afraid that DM should think about hanging up the gloves.

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          • moochi
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            #35
            Originally posted by Anjew
            1. DM hadn't any questionable decisions. If you say he had, means you never watched those fights. The only thing we can mention is the first Rocchigiani fight, but hey, wasn't it after the bell or what?
            2. DM never fought in the States, cause he was offered ****ty money. He beat all top American LHW fighters at the time, though (except for RJJ, who didn't feel like going to Germany to geet his ass whooped). ;-)

            3. BS decisions happen everywhere, usually in the States (e.g. Lewis/Holy I, Ruiz/Golota and many more)...
            you see you can pick out the bad decisions which happen in the states, because they are seldom....which is still bad enough....also castillo - mayweather was a shocking decision.

            although in germany, it seems that perhaps every 2nd title fight that goes to the cards is controversial.

            i don't enjoy saying this, but i have been watching nearly every title fight in germany for the past 5 years.........it is disgraceful, yet nobody in germany seems to worry about it...although the crowd sometimes actually do cheer the "real winner" although the official loser.

            have you guys ever heard of danny green? pls what is your explanation for his DQ?

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            • pinaldino
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              #36
              Originally posted by moochi
              you see you can pick out the bad decisions which happen in the states, because they are seldom....which is still bad enough....also castillo - mayweather was a shocking decision.

              although in germany, it seems that perhaps every 2nd title fight that goes to the cards is controversial.

              i don't enjoy saying this, but i have been watching nearly every title fight in germany for the past 5 years.........it is disgraceful, yet nobody in germany seems to worry about it...although the crowd sometimes actually do cheer the "real winner" although the official loser.

              have you guys ever heard of danny green? pls what is your explanation for his DQ?
              I didn't see Beyer-green, from what I heard green was battering beyer when he lsot his mind and delibarately headbutted him and got DQ'd...but any explanation from somebody who saw it is welcome

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                #37
                ok

                Now that I think back I think the only thing about the DM-Harmon fight that caught me was the fact that DM seem3ed to struggle a good bit with Harmon (fight was rougher than it should have been).

                As for the 2nd Hall fight, I never suspected much about that, just the 1st one.

                As for those years you think DM would have beaten RJJ, I just don't see it happening. I thought DM was a very good fighter but not enough foot or handspeed to get to RJJ enough to beat him. We obviously will continue to disagree on this point but that's ok.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by pinaldino
                  I didn't see Beyer-green, from what I heard green was battering beyer when he lsot his mind and delibarately headbutted him and got DQ'd...but any explanation from somebody who saw it is welcome
                  danny was indeed belting beyer from pillar to post and beyer was bleeding profusely from the 3rd round on. He was bleeding that much, that in the 5th round even Green was covered in his blood.

                  then after some rough tactics from both fighters it appeared that green headbutted beyer, and in the usual way beyer and all the german promoters were crying out loud.

                  so the ref gave green a 2 point penalty....although simultaneously the doctor said the cut was too open, and this is where the germans hased their case on in the aftermath. the referee then said go to the score cards, which of course still would have been a points win for Green, but the promoters went absolutely spastic and argued that the headbutt caused the cut......yeah right that is why their was blood from the same cut for the past 3 rounds....

                  so after 10 minutes of intense pressure and intimidation, the ref succumbed to this and then gave a DQ decision. to add insult to injury, the replay showed that the headbutt did not touch the cut at all......

                  but as you might know, the boxing organization cannot change results, and this is why the germans don't give a fu.. as long as they have their title and live to fight another day.....

                  the wbc ordered an immediate rematch, and it has taken nearly 2 years for it to eventuate....typical german.

                  i have the fight on file....maybe i can upload it......

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                  • Mr. Ryan
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                    #39
                    I was very surprised by that. I thought Michaelzceski's power and pressure would get the job done. I guess it's because Tiozzo is back at 175 that has rejuvenated him. He is very strong there.

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                    • pinaldino
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                      #40
                      Tiozzo is a very strong character, tough as nails inside so when he decided 1 year ago to loose 40 pounds and get the title back it really meant something happened in his mind. Now he sees the opportunity for the big payday he should have got a while ago, and he really deserves a mega fight mega bucks. I really love the guy, and it was so good to see him tear DM's ass and the judges along (wasn't it moochi ? ;-)

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