Michalczewski stopped by Fabrice Tiozzo

[Neuraxis]

well who was darius M anyway? he was another "champion" who never fought out of germany and won many disputed defenses against lowly ranked opponents...

i did like his style, but in my opinion, he was never the quality of a true world champion....

Ouch. Are you serious? How was the linear champ and the first person to ever hold the IBF, WBO, and WBA belts at the same time just another champion? And how are Rocchigiani x 2, Hill, Griffin, Hall x 2, Harmon, Thazdi, Tiozzo, Gonzalez, and Lakatus that much worse than the people Jones fought at ligh heavyweight? And what exactly are disputed defenses? Is this a disputed defense? Sure it is right.

[Super_Lightweight]

lol

Roy didn't have disputed or even close fights with Harmom or Hall...DM did.

[moochi]

Did anyone see the fight? Was it totally one-sided?

i watched the fight and to be honest, DM looked a little out of sorts from the start, and at the same time Tiozzo looked very confident.

Tiozzo was scintilating on the inside and took care of DM as the middle rounds approached.

Although, let's not forget guys that DM fights out of Germany, so he was probably trying to drag it to the scorecards and achieve the usual german judgement. Thank god Tiozzo disposed of DM and avoided the usual german farce.

[Neuraxis]

Lol

Roy didn't have disputed or even close fights with Harmom or Hall...DM did.

He fought Hall and Harmon when he was already slipping and regardless he TKO'd Hall sooner than RJJ could. And he finished of Harmon before RJJ could, and he was the first person to KO him.

[Neuraxis]

i watched the fight and to be honest, DM looked a little out of sorts from the start, and at the same time Tiozzo looked very confident.

Tiozzo was scintilating on the inside and took care of DM as the middle rounds approached.

Although, let's not forget guys that DM fights out of Germany, so he was probably trying to drag it to the scorecards and achieve the usual german judgement. Thank god Tiozzo disposed of DM and avoided the usual german farce.

Hello, Earth to Moochi. DM had one decision win between 1997-2005, and that was against Hill.

[Super_Lightweight]

lol

He fought Hall and Harmon when he was already slipping and regardless he TKO'd Hall sooner than RJJ could. And he finished of Harmon before RJJ could, and he was the first person to KO him.

You are starting to look like a blind DM supporter. His fights with Hall and Harmon were both disputed because of the referee work whuch was more than questionable.

Dm was slipping, no doubt, but the referee was horrible and he could have lost one or both of those fights when DM was in a position to be stopped, but of course they give him ample chance to come back.

[Neuraxis]

You are starting to look like a blind DM supporter. His fights with Hall and Harmon were both disputed because of the referee work whuch was more than questionable.

Dm was slipping, no doubt, but the referee was horrible and he could have lost one or both of those fights when DM was in a position to be stopped, but of course they give him ample chance to come back.

Not necessarily, but first off there were three fights. I understand where you are coming from for the DM vs. Hall I fight. The ref should have waited to the end of the 11th before stopping it or he could have let it go to the distance. Hall was too far behind to win, 97-93, 98-93, 97-93. I didn't see much of anything wrong with Hall II or the Harmon fight though.

[Super_Lightweight]

hmm

Not necessarily, but first off there were three fights. I understand where you are coming from for the DM vs. Hall I fight. The ref should have waited to the end of the 11th before stopping it or he could have let it go to the distance. Hall was too far behind to win, 97-93, 98-93, 97-93. I didn't see much of anything wrong with Hall II or the Harmon fight though.

Yes, I knew there were 3 fights (2 with Hall). That fight with Harmon in particular, I knew there was something fishy abou it, but at this time I can't remember what it was that happened. I'll have to go back and do some searching.

[Neuraxis]

Yes, I knew there were 3 fights (2 with Hall). That fight with Harmon in particular, I knew there was something fishy abou it, but at this time I can't remember what it was that happened. I'll have to go back and do some searching.

Well I just got done watching DM vs. Hall II, and I must admit you are right the ref did a horrible job. Hall kept hitting DM in the hip well below the belt and he just let him do it. If you don't like the stoppage, their's no standing 8 count, and if Hall isn't going to punch back while taking punch after punch, the ref has to stop it. Regardless though the ref did nothing against Hall and the fight was either 88-83 or 87-84 going into the 10th, and Hall was doing worse and worse the later it got into the fight. It wasn't close. I'm not sure how you can blaim Eddie Cotton for the outcome of a DM vs. Harmon when there is a KO unless Cotton KO'd Harmon.

[Neuraxis]

And one more thing it doesn't make sense to look at fights which happened no where near the time the DM vs. RJJ fight should have happened. When they fought is the most important factor here. And here's how I see the different time periods turning out.

1996-1997 = DM wins
1998-2000 = toss up
2001-2003 = RJJ wins
2004-present = DM wins