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  • daggum
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    #31
    Originally posted by blackirish137
    anyone ever seen Benn-Watson? yea, I think it would be like that, except Toney would be more successful.

    although it only lasted a round, the Benn-Barkley fight was pretty competitive. Barkley shook him with a counter left hook too, and would have been fine to continue if there was no 3 knockdown rule.

    man, if there was no 3 knockdown rule, that would have been the brawl to end all brawls, Benn-Barkley.
    2 of those "knockdowns" probably should have been called slips anyway.

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      #32
      Originally posted by daggum
      well he did cheat and should have been dq'd if the rules were the same for everyone. he's lucky barkely is such a tough guy and not a faking clown like griffin or lorenzo.
      good joke

      Originally posted by Keyser Soze
      To be fair, Eubank wasn't on Toney's level. Chris was a tough-willed, iron chinned bastard but he wasn't a supreme technician like Toney.
      That's bull****, Eubank was an outstanding fighter when he performed. He was prone to stinking the place out now and again though but when he was motivated he was great.

      Originally posted by daggum
      2 of those "knockdowns" probably should have been called slips anyway.
      You should probably watch the fight instead of assuming things.

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        #33
        Originally posted by daggum
        2 of those "knockdowns" probably should have been called slips anyway.
        Im not sure about slips, but I do kind of remember Benn landing on Barkley when Barkley was already down, and it seemed like a pretty powerful shot too.

        but...heat of the moment. I dont blame him much. ref could have been a little more on top of things, but oh well.

        always liked Benn, unbelievable heart that guy.

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          #34
          Originally posted by Vivid Intent
          good joke



          That's bull****, Eubank was an outstanding fighter when he performed. He was prone to stinking the place out now and again though but when he was motivated he was great.



          You should probably watch the fight instead of assuming things.
          so he didn't cheat and hit barkely when he was on the ground? its right there on video you should probably watch. you should probably also watch when he clubs barekly behind the head twice with illegal punches and they are called "knockdowns" for someone with a benn avatar you sure are sketchy on the details of his fights.

          eubank was never great get real. let's tell it like it is. he was the sven ottke of england. he must have gotten 6 or 7 gift decisions during his title reign.
          Last edited by daggum; 08-16-2009, 06:59 PM.

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            #35
            Originally posted by Vivid Intent
            good joke



            That's bull****, Eubank was an outstanding fighter when he performed. He was prone to stinking the place out now and again though but when he was motivated he was great.



            You should probably watch the fight instead of assuming things.
            I like Eubank and thoguht he was talented, but imo a focused Toney was a step above him.

            I dont like triangle logic, so excuse me for using it, but I think its safe to say that Watson and Eubank were near equals in terms of overall ability, right? yea...and McCallum pretty much dominated Watson.
            McCallum and Toney were about equals, at middleweight. I just think Toney and McCallum were on seperate levels than Benn, Watson and Eubank, which is no insult to either 3 of them. Toney and McCallum were really just incredibly talented.

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              #36
              Originally posted by daggum
              so he didn't cheat and hit barkely when he was on the ground? its right there on video you should probably watch. you should probably also watch when he clubs barekly behind the head twice with illegal punches and they are called "knockdowns" for someone with a benn avatar you sure are sketchy on the details of his fights.
              So in your opinion Margarito should have been DQ'd against Cotto then? All those KD's were legit so why don't you watch the fight yourself and form your own opinion on it.



              Originally posted by blackirish137
              I like Eubank and thoguht he was talented, but imo a focused Toney was a step above him.

              I dont like triangle logic, so excuse me for using it, but I think its safe to say that Watson and Eubank were near equals in terms of overall ability, right? yea...and McCallum pretty much dominated Watson.
              McCallum and Toney were about equals, at middleweight. I just think Toney and McCallum were on seperate levels than Benn, Watson and Eubank, which is no insult to either 3 of them. Toney and McCallum were really just incredibly talented.
              Yeah triangle theories are bull****. As I said Toney is a bad match-up for Benn but it's definitely one he could win.

              Look what Benn did to Gerald McClellan who was destined to be a great fighter. Benn was a beast and would give any of those guys a **** load of problems.

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                #37
                Originally posted by Vivid Intent
                So in your opinion Margarito should have been DQ'd against Cotto then? All those KD's were legit so why don't you watch the fight yourself and form your own opinion on it.





                Yeah triangle theories are bull****. As I said Toney is a bad match-up for Benn but it's definitely one he could win.

                Look what Benn did to Gerald McClellan who was destined to be a great fighter. Benn was a beast and would give any of those guys a **** load of problems.
                lol didn't know you were blind. look at the third knockdown barkley starts falling forward into benn then suddenly lands on his back after nigel pushes him off. that's a legit knockdown? on the second knockdown you can clearly see the punch cuff the back of barkleys head and shoulders causing him to fall over. that's a legit knockdown?

                rabbit punch a guy with a brain injury? mclellan was clearly injured going into the benn fight as many people who knew him have said.
                Last edited by daggum; 08-16-2009, 07:19 PM.

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                  #38
                  Originally posted by daggum
                  lol didn't know you were blind. look at the third knockdown barkley starts falling forward into benn then suddenly lands on his back after nigel pushes him off. that's a legit knockdown? on the second knockdown you can clearly see the punch cuff the back of barkleys head and shoulders causing him to fall over. that's a legit knockdown?
                  You're either ******ed or just looking for arguments on the internet, either way I feel sorry for you. Benn caught Barkley with a right hook for the 3rd knock down and you could see his legs go as he fell into Benn and the one before that was perfectly legit too.

                  also mclellan was clearly injured going into the benn fight as many people who knew him have said.
                  All I see there are excuses which haven't been proven so until they are I'm going to call bull****.

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                    #39
                    I thoguht the final knockdown was slightly questionable...couldnt ever really tell if that last right actualyl landed or not...and Benn did prettty cleary hit Barkley when he was down, with a good shot too.


                    McClellan was complaining of bad headaches since the 1st Julian Jackson fight. its very possible that he was already on his way to brain damage before the Benn fight even came up.

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                      #40
                      Originally posted by blackirish137
                      I thoguht the final knockdown was slightly questionable...couldnt ever really tell if that last right actualyl landed or not...and Benn did prettty cleary hit Barkley when he was down, with a good shot too.


                      McClellan was complaining of bad headaches since the 1st Julian Jackson fight. its very possible that he was already on his way to brain damage before the Benn fight even came up.
                      It's possible but he still destroyed all his opponents in a round since then up to his meeting with Benn, and very nearly finished Benn in a round too. That is a great win for Nigel no matter what way people want to look at it.

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