Anyone have proof Margs cheated?

Collapse
Collapse
  • Time
  • Show
Clear All
new posts
  • baracuda
    Banned
    Unified Champion - 10,00-20,000 posts
    • Mar 2009
    • 10779
    • 259
    • 569
    • 11,470

    #11
    no but we just have to take cotto fans words for it.......

    Comment

    • Fulcrum29
      Banned
      Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
      • Aug 2008
      • 4171
      • 171
      • 44
      • 4,430

      #12
      Originally posted by Bhopreign
      He's not talking about evidence in a plastic bag but evidence that he cheated against Cotto, not evidence he was trying to cheat against Mosely.
      That's what I'm talking about. Evidence he cheated against Cotto has been posted many times.

      Comment

      • chillin8
        Interim Champion
        • Oct 2008
        • 511
        • 18
        • 6
        • 6,610

        #13
        Originally posted by Fulcrum29
        proof has been posted on this forum many times.
        Its funny how Boxingscene mutha ***as can prove this **** but NO ONE ELSE

        Comment

        • Bhopreign
          Banned
          • Jun 2006
          • 11273
          • 419
          • 100
          • 12,036

          #14
          Originally posted by Fulcrum29
          That's what I'm talking about. Evidence he cheated against Cotto has been posted many times.
          The video of the trainer asking him how is the punch? Or the fact that Cotto was bludgeoned?

          Comment

          • ChiRock773
            Undisputed Champion
            Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
            • Aug 2008
            • 1153
            • 45
            • 8
            • 7,392

            #15
            Well lets erase all of Mosley's wins cause we know he cheated too.... LOL...No there's no PROOF just theories...

            Comment

            • GoDsRiGhThAnD
              Banned
              Silver Champion - 100-500 posts
              • Jul 2009
              • 340
              • 32
              • 40
              • 447

              #16
              Originally posted by lparm
              We know he had some sort of extra padding/plaster against Mosley but why are so many saying he cheated against Cotto. As far as I know the commission never found anything wrong. I think unless there's some evidence the Cotto nut sucklers should sftu about an unproven accusation. There's no justice here when people are calling him guilty when he did nothing wrong against Cotto. If anyone has actual evidence I welcome it.
              he didn't cheat against mosley he attempted to but failed and got caught by the same guy who caught tito trinidad.

              Comment

              • Fulcrum29
                Banned
                Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                • Aug 2008
                • 4171
                • 171
                • 44
                • 4,430

                #17
                Originally posted by Bhopreign
                The video of the trainer asking him how is the punch? Or the fact that Cotto was bludgeoned?
                Ok since there's a lot of noobs here that don't remember the countless times evidence has been posted, I will SUMMARIZE ONLY...the evidence. I'm not gonna do the digging through search features for you to find the actual photographic evidence and all that so I will try to summarize it as succinctly as possible:

                1. Fact: Margarito's trainer was quoted as saying after the fight that he uses the same wrap each time on Margarito
                2. Fact: The wrap in question/evidence is seen (photographs) with having an old dried bloodstain on it.
                3. Fact: This is then corroborated by photographs of Margarito POST-FIGHT after he beat Cotto, raising his hands without his gloves and one can clearly see a dried blood stain on the same wrapping in the photographs after the Cotto fight as in the one after the Mosley fight, linking the same wrap.
                4. Fact: Rashad Holloway, sparring partner of Margarito was hospitalized and had to get facial reconstruction surgery on his broken cheekbone after a fateful sparring session with Margarito where he 'blacked out' after being hit by a "bag of rocks"
                quote: "When it first happened, I didn't know what hit me. I've been hit 50 million times in my career, but I'd never been hit with a shot that hurt like that. It felt like a hard object hit me in the face. I thought he hit me with the palm of his hand. It wasn't like a normal punch. It didn't feel like a padded glove hit me. It was like a solid, hard impact."
                Holloway still feels numbness on that side of his face and thinks Margarito loads his gloves. This story points to one important fact: that if Margarito loaded his gloves against Mosley, and then he even loads his gloves in SPARRING, then he DEFINITELY loaded them in the biggest fight of his career against Cotto.
                5. Margarito didn't even hit Cotto that many times in the face, the early rounds he was going mostly to the body and torso yet somehow magically Cotto's face was transformed for the first time in his career into a grotesque bloody mask. This seems unnatural.
                6. Fact: a video surfaced of Margarito's corner during the opening rounds of the Cotto fight. Margerito's trainer is seen mysteriously asking him "How's the punch?" to which another cornerman seems to get abashed and self conscious of the camera and Margarito tries to suddenly play it off. In truth the trainer is asking him how the punch is because it takes several rounds for the plaster to harden as explained by experts and that is at the point when Cotto was still easily dominating yet magically after the plaster hardened a couple rounds later, Cotto's face began to transform into a bloody mess.

                Comment

                • Bhopreign
                  Banned
                  • Jun 2006
                  • 11273
                  • 419
                  • 100
                  • 12,036

                  #18
                  Originally posted by Fulcrum29
                  Ok since there's a lot of noobs here that don't remember the countless times evidence has been posted, I will SUMMARIZE ONLY...the evidence. I'm not gonna do the digging through search features for you to find the actual photographic evidence and all that so I will try to summarize it as succinctly as possible:

                  1. Fact: Margarito's trainer was quoted as saying after the fight that he uses the same wrap each time on Margarito
                  2. Fact: The wrap in question/evidence is seen (photographs) with having an old dried bloodstain on it.
                  3. Fact: This is then corroborated by photographs of Margarito POST-FIGHT after he beat Cotto, raising his hands without his gloves and one can clearly see a dried blood stain on the same wrapping in the photographs after the Cotto fight as in the one after the Mosley fight, linking the same wrap.
                  4. Fact: Rashad Holloway, sparring partner of Margarito was hospitalized and had to get facial reconstruction surgery on his broken cheekbone after a fateful sparring session with Margarito where he 'blacked out' after being hit by a "bag of rocks"
                  quote: "When it first happened, I didn't know what hit me. I've been hit 50 million times in my career, but I'd never been hit with a shot that hurt like that. It felt like a hard object hit me in the face. I thought he hit me with the palm of his hand. It wasn't like a normal punch. It didn't feel like a padded glove hit me. It was like a solid, hard impact."
                  Holloway still feels numbness on that side of his face and thinks Margarito loads his gloves. This story points to one important fact: that if Margarito loaded his gloves against Mosley, and then he even loads his gloves in SPARRING, then he DEFINITELY loaded them in the biggest fight of his career against Cotto.
                  5. Margarito didn't even hit Cotto that many times in the face, the early rounds he was going mostly to the body and torso yet somehow magically Cotto's face was transformed for the first time in his career into a grotesque bloody mask. This seems unnatural.
                  6. Fact: a video surfaced of Margarito's corner during the opening rounds of the Cotto fight. Margerito's trainer is seen mysteriously asking him "How's the punch?" to which another cornerman seems to get abashed and self conscious of the camera and Margarito tries to suddenly play it off. In truth the trainer is asking him how the punch is because it takes several rounds for the plaster to harden as explained by experts and that is at the point when Cotto was still easily dominating yet magically after the plaster hardened a couple rounds later, Cotto's face began to transform into a bloody mess.
                  Im not doubting that Marg probably cheated, but with everything you just said, you seem to not understand what proof means at least in the United States, everything you stated is considered substantial in a U.S. courtroom.

                  Comment

                  • Fulcrum29
                    Banned
                    Platinum Champion - 1,000-5,000 posts
                    • Aug 2008
                    • 4171
                    • 171
                    • 44
                    • 4,430

                    #19
                    Originally posted by Bhopreign
                    Im not doubting that Marg probably cheated, but with everything you just said, you seem to not understand what proof means at least in the United States, everything you stated is considered substantial in a U.S. courtroom.
                    yes everything I said would be considered evidence in a U.S. court room leading to a conviction and thus being declared legal PROOF

                    Comment

                    • ¤¤¤
                      No more nothing!
                      Gold Champion - 500-1,000 posts
                      • Feb 2009
                      • 891
                      • 27
                      • 51
                      • 7,487

                      #20
                      the whole theory involving the conversations in margarito's corner during the cotto fight is so ******.

                      Comment

                      Working...
                      TOP