Since Margarito cheated..Do you still consider Cotto's record Undefeated?

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  • jazluvr
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    #61
    Originally posted by Joe2608
    Margarito tried to cheat in the Mosley match, there's no proof that he cheated before that.
    Did it seem in Margo's fight with Mosley, that Shane was, to say the least..a bit pissed? He really beat the tar out of him. I f i was a boxer and knew somebody attempted that **** with me, I'd be in a rage.

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    • screwhead1
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      #62
      i call it unfinished business...i think they need to fight again...margo ate a lot of cotto's punches and simply outworked him...with that said...if the result is similar next go round...it can be conclusive that margo didn't cheat...but to take cotto's loss away would only open a door to question any margo win...so i don't think it's that simple to strike it from cotto's record...

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      • old cat
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        #63
        Its a loss because there is no proof and he KOed Cotto. The truth is Cotto fought the wrong fight. He should have tied Tony up and turned him, he did not. Did Tony cheat against Cotto? No one knows for sure. I personally think his fight with Mosley was not the first time.

        One can only hope that loss does not define his career. The pre Tony Cotto was a killer that is not in doubt. Is the Post Tony Cotto the same? Time will tell.

        Remember, In Boxing ones career is define not by how many times one is knocked down but rather how many times ONE GETS BACK UP. Thats why we watch boxing to look inside a man on the most basic level and to see something worth being able to cheer.

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        • switch44
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          #64
          No matter what's the reason. Cotto lost that fight. You can't change it. It's already been decided.

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          • johnle43
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            #65
            dlh beat a roided up vargas and possibly fought with a roided up mosley twice. came away with a 1-1-1 record in my books. cotto faced the plaster hands of a fighter who's nowhere near as skilled as vargas and mosley. cotto gets the loss because he still should've found a way to win. clinch until you get warned or throw a lowblow...something to buy time and gather yourself and survive until the decision.

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              #66
              Originally posted by johnle43
              dlh beat a roided up vargas and possibly fought with a roided up mosley twice. came away with a 1-1-1 record in my books. cotto faced the plaster hands of a fighter who's nowhere near as skilled as vargas and mosley. cotto gets the loss because he still should've found a way to win. clinch until you get warned or throw a lowblow...something to buy time and gather yourself and survive until the decision.
              Yeah...i painfully agree Cotto just did not have his A game on, and he might have even won the fight if he had a great plan and had a great night, but clinching and purposely low-blowing is not Cotto's style. He just wants to fight. He hates clinching. Even though an occasional low blow is almost inevitable for a heavy body puncher.

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              • fdotorres
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                #67
                Originally posted by Joe2608
                Margarito tried to cheat in the Mosley match, there's no proof that he cheated before that.
                there's no proof sadam hussein had mass destruction missiles stored in irak. wasn't he killed in public?

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                • fdotorres
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                  #68
                  Originally posted by screwhead1
                  i call it unfinished business...i think they need to fight again...margo ate a lot of cotto's punches and simply outworked him...with that said...if the result is similar next go round...it can be conclusive that margo didn't cheat...but to take cotto's loss away would only open a door to question any margo win...so i don't think it's that simple to strike it from cotto's record...
                  if he beats cotto without plaster in a rematch, it may be because of the clash of styles or just because cotto isn't the same fighter of before, while he is

                  regardless of all the crap we write here, there's two facts:
                  1- cotto lost that night
                  2- margarito is a cheater and a criminal who tried to hurt mosley badly

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                  • Mr. Fantastic
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                    #69
                    Originally posted by fdotorres
                    there's no proof sadam hussein had mass destruction missiles stored in irak. wasn't he killed in public?
                    You actually believed that??

                    There was a small amount of it but nothing to make a big deal about.

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                    • fdotorres
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                      #70
                      Originally posted by chicano79us
                      You actually believed that??

                      There was a small amount of it but nothing to make a big deal about.
                      yup, right

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