Winky blew his chance to be a HOFer in the round 12 of the Taylor fight in my view.

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  • Iceta
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    Winky blew his chance to be a HOFer in the round 12 of the Taylor fight in my view.

    I thought I'd make this thread because there is another thread talking about the best wins on P-Will's resume. I'm not a fan of Winky at all because his style wasn't my cup of tea. But I have to give credit where credit is due. The two wins over Mosley are great wins. And I thought he got robbed against Vargas and he beat some other good contenders at 154 like a prime Branco McKart and JC Candelo. But if you really dig at his resume, he doesn't equate to a Hall of Fame fighter because he didn't take the bull by the horns in certain situations.

    The fact that he acted like a diva when it came to negotiating certain fights hurts his credibility. And another point I want to make is that his win over Trinidad is very overrated. A lot of people may not know this. But Ricardo Mayorga got injured in a car accident in the lead up to his fight with Tito, and it gave the false illusion that Trinidad was back to form after B-Hop destroyed him. And the fact that Winky got in the ring with Hopkins and Williams is something that he deserves credit for. But he didn't win any of those fights regardless of how competitive the Hopkins fight was. I think if those two guys fought in a prime-for-prime match up Hopkins would've beat him a lot more convincingly than what he did.

    And the last point I want to make is his fight with Jermaine Taylor for the Middleweight title. A lot of people think he got robbed in that fight, but I didn't see it that way. According to compubox they both landed the exact same amount of power punches even though Winky landed more jabs. And I had the fight even going into the last round and Winky just totally bottled it. If he would've won that very last round and left questions unanswered about whether that fight was really a robbery, he would be a HOFer in my book. But that one bone-headed decision is why to me, he is a case of close, but no cigar.

    Now by today's standards he probably will go into the HOF since guys like Corrales and Gatti will get in and he was a way better fighter than both of those guys. But he came up short against the very best opponents he fought. That is not a criteria that should get you in the HOF. That's the reason why I wouldn't let Gatti in there either.
  • KILLA RIGHT
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    #2
    idk i always thought taylor was overated he should of lost 2 to b hop and this fight he should have 6 losses. So this fight had 0 to do with legacy

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    • sycomantz
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      #3
      mos def thought that taylor beat hopkins both times...taylor is just to active for Bhop. but i thought Winky Beat taylor

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      • Bhopreign
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        #4
        12th round should have been 10-10, nobody did anything really.

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        • KILLA RIGHT
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          #5
          Originally posted by Bhopreign
          12th round should have been 10-10, nobody did anything really.
          agreed if 2 fighters don't do **** one shouldn't be givin anything

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          • -Hyperion-
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            #6
            winky still did more than taylor in the last round(anyone who thinks otherwise is pretty much admiting they pay waaaay too much attention to HBO) so this thread fails big......winky will be helped by the fact that he has longevity and legacy in a single weight class and will always be talked about in 154lb discussions.....and honeslty, if barry maguigan is in the hof, pretty much every modern great is in too.....

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            • bojangles1987
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              #7
              I thought Winky won the fight. He did enough to.

              Winky will go in the HOF because in his prime he beat Shane Mosley twice, destroyed Felix Trinidad, and unified the junior middleweight division, on top of being a pretty avoided fighter. He did think way too highly of himself after he beat Trinidad as a draw, but the guy did enough to go in the Hall of Fame.

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              • BEEHOP
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                #8
                Winky is awesome.

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                • Silencers
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                  #9
                  I don't think 1 round should define a fighter like Winky's career.

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                  • screwhead1
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                    #10
                    winky's efforts against paul williams shows that he's a ring legend...HOF'er for sure...

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