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    Freddie Roach Next Lesson for Manny Pacquiao?

    Roach recently said that he will "train Manny to not get hit."

    It is my opinion that Freddie will improve these Pacquiao's arsenal:


    Ducking and Side Stepping

    [IMG]http://i19.***********.com/albums/b192/dreamflow/hayemakerpac.gif[/IMG]

    Pacquiao faked a jab and as soon as Marquez started countering with a left hook, Pacquiao ducked and threw a huge left of his own. Perfect. Common during Pacquiao's sparring session but rare during his actual fights.


    Backpedal Punching

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    When Marquez moves forward, Pacquiao backpedals for a counterpunch.
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    Dude, what the ****?

    The first was just a wild swinging punch - the kind of thing you'd be laughed out of the gym for even as an amatuer.

    The second was a very rare instance of Pac countering Marquez and considering Marquez has schooled Pac in that department over 24 rounds one instance of it is not impressive.

    Pac's just a whirlwind. There is not need to make him out to be an incredible technician when it's clear that compared to guys like Marquez and Floyd - he's not.

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      #3
      Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
      Dude, what the ****?

      The first was just a wild swinging punch - the kind of thing you'd be laughed out of the gym for even as an amatuer.

      The second was a very rare instance of Pac countering Marquez and considering Marquez has schooled Pac in that department over 24 rounds one instance of it is not impressive.

      Pac's just a whirlwind. There is not need to make him out to be an incredible technician when it's clear that compared to guys like Marquez and Floyd - he's not.
      I'm not a Pac fan, but that was no fluke. He feinted the right and went under and over with the left. That was a learned tactic. I like how those two elements were made into 1 move, it is completely independent of the opponent's counter.

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        #4
        Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
        Pac's just a whirlwind. There is not need to make him out to be an incredible technician when it's clear that compared to guys like Marquez and Floyd - he's not.
        Here's my top 5 improvements for Pacquiao throughout the years.

        Manny Pacquiao is one of those athletes who are genetically gifted. He has inborn speed, fast footwork, freakish stamina, durable chin, powerful punches, and ambidextrous hands. But gifts can only take you so far, a fighter also needs training and hard work.


        Mid 1990s: Bullet Left

        When Pacquiao was just first starting out in boxing, he keeps moving forward. Even with his gifts, Pacquiao's defense was just not that good.

        He was a one trick pony - jab, jab, straight left. He won most of his early fights by overwhelming his enemies with barrages of lefts. Pacquiao was punched a lot, but he didn't mind, as long as his machine gun lefts keeps raining.

        The right jab has double purpose, as a measuring stick and as a setup for his powerful straight left to the face. His left is so fast that most of his opponents didn’t see what hit them. The power of Manny Pacquiao’s left straight comes from his legs, using his whole body starting from his calf muscles.


        Late 1990s: Face Body Combo

        This is when the Combo first appeared. During this time Manny incorporated his famous face and body combo. Once his opponent covers up to protect the face, Pacquiao follows-up with a punch to the side of the body. Up and down, up and down, over and over again, Pacquiao targeting the uncovered part.


        Early 2000s: Crossover

        This is when the crossover defense footwork manifested. After straighting his opponent with his left, he circles to the right of his opponents. By the time the opponent throws a counter, Manny is nowhere to be found, he's already behind them. It's like a crossover move in a sport that Manny Pacquiao plays - basketball.


        2005 to Present: Manila Ice

        When Freddie Roach became Pacquiao's new trainer, he saw Pacquiao's obvious weakness: over-relying on the straight left.

        Marquez capitalized on this weakness during the first fight. His lost to Morales showed that Pacquiao was still relying on his straight left, and not incorporating the right hand as planned.

        Roach drilled Pacquiao to use his natural gift of ambidextrous hands - hence the right hook, a.k.a. "Manila Ice" was born. So began the long and repetitious training of Pacquiao's right hand.

        “Sometimes I get bored doing the right hook over and over again,” said Pacquiao.

        It took Pacquiao years to perfect the right hook. The Manila Ice was first seen during the Velasquez fight. It was evident during the Morales 3, Marquez 2, Diaz, and De la Hoya fight. It was perfected during the Hatton fight.

        The Manila Ice is now as powerful as the Bullet Left.


        2005 to Present: Combo Version 2

        Remember the Face Body Combo? Well, it is now upgraded. The variety of punches are now staggering: hooks, uppercuts, crosses, jabs, straights. Pacquiao moves in and out, side to side, throwing trajectory angle power punches while moving at an unpredictable direction at an uncanny speed. It used to be 2 combo at most, now it is 4 or 5. And his stamina is still there, he never gets tired punching.


        Manny Pacquiao is still improving:
        - fighting backwards
        - counter-punching

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          #5
          Originally posted by Haglerwins
          I'm not a Pac fan, but that was no fluke. He feinted the right and went under and over with the left. That was a learned tactic. I like how those two elements were made into 1 move, it is completely independent of the opponent's counter.
          MANILA ICE PERFECTED: Right Hook Counterpunching



          In past interviews, Pacquiao said he practiced counter-punching (during Diaz, De la Hoya, Hatton training). So By the time he reaches Hatton, it was so automatic, that when Hatton telegraph his left punch, Pacquiao countered with his right hook roll under move, EVEN BEFORE THE HATTON PUNCH.

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            #6
            Why do you keep posting this same **** over and over????????????????????

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              #7
              Originally posted by - JCHING -
              Why do you keep posting this same **** over and over????????????????????
              It's a reply to those who thinks Manny Pacquiao has no technical boxing skill.

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                #8
                Originally posted by Shattered Jaw
                Pac's just a whirlwind. There is not need to make him out to be an incredible technician when it's clear that compared to guys like Marquez and Floyd - he's not.
                Pacquiao is not a pure brawler anymore.

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                  Probably be tu learn to chase cotto for the late rounds and to help him avoid low blows.

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                    We're gonna see uppercuts penetrating Cotto's ear muff guard. That's gonna be his new weapon.

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