List of advantages? Kelly Pavlik -vs- Paul Williams?

[DrewWoodside]

Who has the advantages in this fight regarding standard measures of boxing ability? Fill in the blanks with either Pavlik or Williams. This seems to be a real pick em fight.. Lets eliminate some of the confusion!

Power:
Speed:
Ring Intelligence:
Adaptability:
Defense:
Inside Work:
Chin:
Stamina:
Trainer:
Footwork:
Heart:
Ring Generalship:
Intangibles:
Prediction:

[Shattered Jaw]

Who has the advantages in this fight regarding the typical measures of boxing ability? Fill in blanks: Pavlik or Williams. This seems to be a real pick em fight.. Lets eliminate some of the confusion!

Power: Pavlik
Speed: Williams
Ring Intelligence: Meh - can't decide.
Adaptability: Williams
Defense: **** it - they both love a tear up
Chin: Equal - Pavlik has faced the bigger punchers but been hurt more.
Stamina: Williams
Trainer: DOUBLE THAT ****ING JAB - Pavlik has the BEST trainer EVER
Footwork: Williams
Heart: Equal (Both massive)
Ring Generalship: Williams
Unknown Variables: Williams because he is ****ing awesome
Prediction: Boxing fans win

I would also add that Williams has a far superior inside game. Infact it is very, very good regardless of the fact he should be boxing like Hearns. For such a tall man it's completely unprecedented.

[DrewWoodside]

I would also add that Williams has a far superior inside game. Infact it is very, very good regardless of the fact he should be boxing like Hearns. For such a tall man it's completely unprecedented.

Just added the inside work option. I meant to do that and forgot.

[Shattered Jaw]

TRIPLE THE FOOKING JAB. That'll GET US IN POSITION.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

Who has the advantages in this fight regarding the typical measures of boxing ability? Fill in blanks: Pavlik or Williams. This seems to be a real pick em fight.. Lets eliminate some of the confusion!

Power: Pavlik - Obvious
Speed: Same - About the same Williams might be a bit faster
Ring Intelligence: Pavlik - Pavlik fights to his strengths while Williams sometimes dont
Adaptability: Same - neither have shown really adaptability, they both fight 1 way
Defense: Pavlik- They dont have good defenses, but Williams gets hit more
Chin: Pavlik - I said Pavlik, because he is tested at 160 Williams is not.
Stamina: Same - they both go 12 rounds hard and throw 80+ Punches
Trainer: Same - They are decent trainers at best
Footwork: Same - Pavlik is always flat footed, While WIlliams is always off balance
Heart: Same - Both have shown heart
Ring Generalship: Not Sure
Unknown Variables: Williams - he might Pack a heavier Punch that we thought and he might have a real granite chin. This fight will prove whatever it is
Prediction: Pavlik TKO9

Those are Mine!!!!!

[joseph5620]

Those are Mine!!!!!

Power: Pavlik - Obvious
Speed: Same - Aout teh same Williams might be a bit fasterRing Intelligence: Pavlik - Pavlik fights to his strenghs whle Williams sometimes dont
Adaptability: Same - neither have shown really adaptability, they both fight way
Defense: Pavlik- They dont have good defeses, but Williams gets hit more
Chin: Pavlik - I said Pavlik, because he is tested at 160 Williams is not.
Stamina: Same - they both go 2 runds hard and throw 80+ Punches
Trainer: Same - They are decent trainers at best
Footwork: Same - Pavlik is always flat footed, While WIlliams is always off balanceHeart: Same - Both have shown heart
Ring Generalship: Not Sure
Unknown Variables: Williams - he might Pack a heavier Punch that with thought and he might have a real granite chin. This fight will prove whatever it is
Prediction: Pavlik TKO9


You think their speed is the same? Even an ancient Hopkins was faster than Pavlik. And the footwork? Wow. Just wow.

[DrewWoodside]

I would also add that Williams has a far superior inside game. Infact it is very, very good regardless of the fact he should be boxing like Hearns. For such a tall man it's completely unprecedented.

I think Chin has to go to Pavlik.. He's faced the bigger punches and never been stopped.. though he's constantly getting hit. Could Williams have survived Taylor hitting him with the kitchen sink like Pavlik did? I think it's fair to say Williams wouldn't have stuck around with his chin up to find out but regardless it wasn't enough to KO Ghost.

[joseph5620]

I think Chin has to go to Pavlik.. He's faced the bigger punches and never been stopped.. though he's constantly getting hit. Could Williams have survived Taylor hitting him with the kitchen sink like Pavlik did? I think it's fair to say Williams wouldn't have stuck around with his chin up to find out but regardless it wasn't enough to KO Ghost.

Agreed. At this point Pavlik has a proven chin at 160 whlie Williams does not. It will get tested in this fight though.

[DrewWoodside]

Power: Pavlik - Obvious
Speed: Same - Aout teh same Williams might be a bit fasterRing Intelligence: Pavlik - Pavlik fights to his strenghs whle Williams sometimes dont
Adaptability: Same - neither have shown really adaptability, they both fight way
Defense: Pavlik- They dont have good defeses, but Williams gets hit more
Chin: Pavlik - I said Pavlik, because he is tested at 160 Williams is not.
Stamina: Same - they both go 2 runds hard and throw 80+ Punches
Trainer: Same - They are decent trainers at best
Footwork: Same - Pavlik is always flat footed, While WIlliams is always off balanceHeart: Same - Both have shown heart
Ring Generalship: Not Sure
Unknown Variables: Williams - he might Pack a heavier Punch that with thought and he might have a real granite chin. This fight will prove whatever it is
Prediction: Pavlik TKO9


You think their speed is the same? Even an ancient Hopkins was faster than Pavlik. And the footwork? Wow. Just wow.

I think Williams may be faster, but Pavlik was fighting well above weight and Hopkins even in his advanced age is deceptively fast. Considering his timing and ability to position himself and manipulate his opponent.

[BMWM3P]

Who has the advantages in this fight regarding the typical measures of boxing ability? Fill in blanks: Pavlik or Williams. This seems to be a real pick em fight.. Lets eliminate some of the confusion!

Power: Pavlik no doubt
Speed: Williams
Ring Intelligence: Even, they both alway do the same thing
Adaptability: Even, neither can adapt
Defense: Even, their defense is their offense
Inside Work: Pavlik
Chin: Pavlik being in there with huge punchers
Stamina: Williams, the somali pirate never gets tired
Trainer: Both are ****
Footwork: Williams
Heart: Pavlik
Ring Generalship: Neither of them know what this means
Unknown Variables: Pavlik's being down and close to out yet managed to win
Prediction: Pavlik TKO 6

Pavlik will outgun the somali pirate in a fast paced, exiting but short fight.