Five Reasons Miguel Cotto Can Defeat Manny Pacquiao article

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  • mellow_mood
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    #71
    Originally posted by Talisayen
    I watched the Cotto/Clottey fight 3X and I think Clottey won by UD. The decision given by the judges is a business decision and is not based on the actual fight.

    I also watched Pacquiao vs. Hatton and Pac vs. De la Hoya and Pacquiao won both bouts by total domination.
    how did you score the sugar shane mosley vs cotto fight?

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    • dondi330
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      #72
      Originally posted by Talisayen
      I watched the Cotto/Clottey fight 3X and I think Clottey won by UD. The decision given by the judges is a business decision and is not based on the actual fight.

      I also watched Pacquiao vs. Hatton and Pac vs. De la Hoya and Pacquiao won both bouts by total domination.
      I seen Pac vs Marquez once and know Marquez WON!

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      • javielo
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        #73
        Originally posted by PRPOWERPUNCHES
        I agree, with all 5 steps..

        This fight will not look like what most people think, Cotto will shock the world..

        Para todo "PUERTO RICO!"
        Cotto will win

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        • Talisayen
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          #74
          Originally posted by mellow_mood
          how did you score the sugar shane mosley vs cotto fight?
          Cotto and Mosley gave a good fight during their bout. I do agree that the fight was too close to call, but you can't say that Mosley got robbed; the fight could have gone either way tho'.
          Last edited by Talisayen; 08-10-2009, 08:54 PM.

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            #75
            Originally posted by dondi330
            I seen Pac vs Marquez once and know Marquez WON!
            I respect your opinion and hopefully you guys do the same with other posters.

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              #76
              Originally posted by rob6465
              By Bryan Trafford(insidefight.com) August 10, 2009

              Miguel Cotto is an underdog against Manny Pacquiao. Many consider him to be tarnished, damaged goods in the ring. He has not looked good in has last two major fights, against Margarito and Clottey. He was brutally beaten by Margarito, and barely survived against Clottey. He has shown a potential for cuts, and has looked very beatable.
              With all that said, Cotto still has a very good chance to defeat Manny Pacquiao. Here are five reasons why:


              1. Punching Power

              Miguel Cotto will pack arguably the biggest punch Pacquiao has ever faced. While some would argue it was De La Hoya, Cotto is very heavy handed. While not scoring knockouts at the top level at 147, Cotto steamrolled opponents at 140. Pacquiao is not a natural welterweight, and there are questions as to whether or not he can take Cotto’s punch.

              For Cotto to defeat Pacquiao, he will have to accomplish something Pacquiao’s last two opponents did not. He will actually have to land his shots. If he can find a way to hit Pacquiao, the scope of the fight will change dramatically for him.

              2. Chin

              Cotto is a rather large welterweight. He has shown he can take good punches from natural welterweights. He took the best shots Zab Judah had to offer. He stood in against Mosley for twelve rounds. If he can take Pacquiao’s punch, his chances go up dramatically.

              3. Size

              Now there is majority agreement here that size will not play a major factor in this fight. Since this fight will be at a catchweight of 145, neither fighter should have much of an advantage.

              The truth is Cotto is a naturally bigger man. He is a rather large welterweight, and puts on significant weight the day of the fight. This advantage will come into play for him if he can use his size to lean on Pacquiao on the ropes, or muscle him.

              4. Body Punching

              This point is absolutely the key to the fight. If Cotto has any chance at pulling off the mild upset, he will have to get to the body. Cotto is a fearsome body puncher, and when dedicated, is hard to deter. If he makes a solid commitment to the body, it will be interesting to see how Pacquiao responds.

              Cotto should look for every available opportunity to dig into Pacquiao’s ribs. If he is unable to do so with any success, he stands little chance of defeating the pound for pound champion.

              5. Ring Generalship

              Cotto is an underrated boxer. He can box well from the outside, as well as fight on the inside. He makes good in-fight adjustments. In this fight, he will need to cut the ring off without taking too much damage. Cotto will need to corner the faster Pacquiao, and make him pay once on the inside.

              If Cotto can rinse and repeat that strategy early on, he can start headhunting in the later rounds. A commitment to the body early, a left hook late, and we have the makings of an upset on our hands.
              1. Punching Power -- agree
              2. Chin -- agree since the fight is at WW although an uppercut from pac might cause him to drop his guard on his temple... this I believe Cotto is more vulnerable.
              3. Size -- disagree with his statement "Since this fight will be at a catchweight of 145, neither fighter should have much of an advantage.
              ". IMO, the 145lbs cotto would still be the same from the 146lbs cotto.
              4. Body punching -- agree but key word is opportunity. One thing I noticed that when cotto is body punching, he leaves his head open. IMO, If pac can somehow gain the respect of cotto with the power of his punches, this body-punching would no longer be utilized.
              5. Ring Generalship -- disagree. Cotto is good at this but in my opinion .. not in the level of pac-jmm. pac/jmm could actually fight going backwards... baiting you and setting you up for a counter. Factor in the speed of lighter fighters , then Cotto is in a major disadvantage here.

              What I would favor Cotto though is in-rounds intelligence. If he could time and adjust to pac's attack in the early part of the round, he should pounce on pac and get his man out before the end of the round... wherein Freddy would be in the corner telling pac on how to neutralize it. This is the scenario that keeps playing in my mind. IMO, as long as pac could survive the initial wave of Cotto's attack ... long enough for Freddy to make adjustments ... pac would win.

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                #77
                Originally posted by rob6465
                By Bryan Trafford(insidefight.com) August 10, 2009

                Miguel Cotto is an underdog against Manny Pacquiao. Many consider him to be tarnished, damaged goods in the ring. He has not looked good in has last two major fights, against Margarito and Clottey. He was brutally beaten by Margarito, and barely survived against Clottey. He has shown a potential for cuts, and has looked very beatable.
                With all that said, Cotto still has a very good chance to defeat Manny Pacquiao. Here are five reasons why:


                1. Punching Power

                Miguel Cotto will pack arguably the biggest punch Pacquiao has ever faced. While some would argue it was De La Hoya, Cotto is very heavy handed. While not scoring knockouts at the top level at 147, Cotto steamrolled opponents at 140. Pacquiao is not a natural welterweight, and there are questions as to whether or not he can take Cotto’s punch.

                For Cotto to defeat Pacquiao, he will have to accomplish something Pacquiao’s last two opponents did not. He will actually have to land his shots. If he can find a way to hit Pacquiao, the scope of the fight will change dramatically for him.

                2. Chin

                Cotto is a rather large welterweight. He has shown he can take good punches from natural welterweights. He took the best shots Zab Judah had to offer. He stood in against Mosley for twelve rounds. If he can take Pacquiao’s punch, his chances go up dramatically.

                3. Size

                Now there is majority agreement here that size will not play a major factor in this fight. Since this fight will be at a catchweight of 145, neither fighter should have much of an advantage.

                The truth is Cotto is a naturally bigger man. He is a rather large welterweight, and puts on significant weight the day of the fight. This advantage will come into play for him if he can use his size to lean on Pacquiao on the ropes, or muscle him.

                4. Body Punching

                This point is absolutely the key to the fight. If Cotto has any chance at pulling off the mild upset, he will have to get to the body. Cotto is a fearsome body puncher, and when dedicated, is hard to deter. If he makes a solid commitment to the body, it will be interesting to see how Pacquiao responds.

                Cotto should look for every available opportunity to dig into Pacquiao’s ribs. If he is unable to do so with any success, he stands little chance of defeating the pound for pound champion.

                5. Ring Generalship

                Cotto is an underrated boxer. He can box well from the outside, as well as fight on the inside. He makes good in-fight adjustments. In this fight, he will need to cut the ring off without taking too much damage. Cotto will need to corner the faster Pacquiao, and make him pay once on the inside.

                If Cotto can rinse and repeat that strategy early on, he can start headhunting in the later rounds. A commitment to the body early, a left hook late, and we have the makings of an upset on our hands.

                A simple it aint rocket science would suffice. But I will say this the author left out I think the most important weapon in Cotto's arsenal, a punishingly accurate left jab. How many times have you seen guys knocked down with a jab? Cotto has done it twice against opponents who have had very sturdy chins. And against Mosley and Judah once Cotto got going on the jab the fight was in the bag. Judah all but had his right eye knocked out of the ring and Mosley one of the sturdiest guys at welter or even jr middle was forced to back off mainly because of the jab. Cotto's game plan better be to jab upstairs and down and punish Manny's body, shoulders, arms anything he can put leather on and simply break him down for the stoppage. The whole tendency to cut thing is getting blown way out of proportion Cotto has only been cut due to head buts, at the end of the fight against Mosley and he was rammed by the collosus head of Clottey.

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                • jazluvr
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                  #78
                  Originally posted by peyk-peyk
                  I am a fan of Cotto and reading your posts makes me lean towards Pacquiao. You need to calm down and stop making treats of reporting somebody from expressing their own opinion.
                  What posts of mine have made you lean towards Pac? Lol...find me one of my posts where i bash Pacman. I always said i liked and respected him. I am calm, I don't get emotional on the internet. I have been on forums for a good 10 years, and have learned my lesson from argueing with people and getting into wars, and have earned by experience the right to put what i have in my sig about arguing on forums.

                  I don't feed into negative posts and i don't react, i respond. You don't know the history of what Talesayen/BraggarrgKilla and i have had when he started back then with the name calling. forgive me for not getting into ****** pissing contests with other members. And the threat didn't come merely from an opinion, but a direct, for no reason persoanl attack complete with childish name calling. Please re-read the thread before you go telling me what I need to do, k?

                  Originally posted by peyk-peyk
                  This kind of post is uncalled for and unnecessary. Why not post positive comments instead of promoting hatred?
                  Ummm... you kinda contradicted your self here, dude...you bash me even though i was the one who was pounced on by 2 pacfans? Find me one of my posts where i have instigated hatred and negativity.

                  Originally posted by Talisayen
                  I respect your opinion and hopefully you guys do the same with other posters.
                  Yeah, and this is why you posted calling me names when i never said a word to you? You're trying to save face after posting a needless attack on a poster (me) who said nothing to you. Try practicing what you preach before you go lecturing others on internet etiquite.

                  I'm not trying to revive this thread, but don't mistake my kindness for weakness. I just don't like or see the need to needlessly attack posters. I was needlessly attacked, and there's no need for that. I said what i said to let people know where i stand. I don't hit the report button everytime someone disagrees with me, just when i get continualy attacked with the name calling and other crap.

                  Don't get me wrong, I'll debate with anybody if they keep it sensible and realistic, and can refrain from resorting to name calling. And you don't have to worry about me hitting the complaint button.

                  Don't need it, don't want it, don't allow myself to get ****** into it, and ain't puttin' up with it. I try to hold myself to a higher standard than that. If you want to bash me for that, go ahead. It just says something about your own standards.
                  Jaz out.
                  Last edited by jazluvr; 08-11-2009, 12:37 PM.

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                  • yeykax
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                    #79
                    Originally posted by Primal Instinx
                    Author of this article needs to add footwork, ******* jab, timing, experience with cuts and being on the downside in a fight, heart and will...**** the list goes on.
                    agree with what you say!!!

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