Rewatching Quintana vs Williams

[Pullcounter]

yet he was able to knockdown Clottey who has a good chin in the first round off a jab?

get serious, clottey was off balance and that was a flash knockdown. still, it was an amatuerish mistake by clottey.

He has enough power to keep Williams off him

cotto will be backpeddling the whole fight, same as the margo fight, same as the clottey fight.

and can tire Williams out with body shots.

not even margo tired out williams and margo is a good body puncher, volume punching, and heavy handed.

cotto aint doing **** to pwill.

No Way does Williams keep coming forward taking blows like Margarito was.

williams won't take blows like margo did. pwill has better handspeed than margo and better defense. cotto will land a few good punches, but like I said, cotto is not a one punch KO guy.

[savorduhflavor]

Williams is all wrong for Cotto. Just a bad, bad style matchup for Cotto.

My only question with Williams is his chin. So far, he's proven it to be very good, but I haven't seen him in there with a big puncher yet. The Pavlik fight should answer those questions. If Williams does indeed have a great chin, that dude probably aint gonna lose again. He's gotten a lot better since the first Quintana fight.

[Bushbaby]

That fight woke up the Punisher,there's no excuse to be made,but the Punisher has improved since then!!

[deanrw]

Can somebody explain how a 12 rounds schooling is a Fluke, but a 1 round Ko isnt??

I just stayed the obvious, the movement and timming beat Williams, whethe he train hard or not, didnt make any difference, because he got put boxed and out skilled!!!!

My thoughts exactly. Fighters can get caught cold early. it happens all the time. To get a 12 round hammering though, shows a true difference in abilities.

That is like if everyone said the Pavlik/Hopkins fight was some kind of fluke, and that a Pavlik/Hopkins rematch would show a true Pavlik.

The second Quintana/Williams fight was a great result by Williams, but it did little to prove the deficiencies Williams showed in the first fight have miraculously disappeared.

[Exhaust Depot]

This was not an off night for williams, he just did not have the correct game plan for tne Rican. He won the second fight because he readjusted his game plan.

[Ch@mpBox@PR]

My thoughts exactly. Fighters can get caught cold early. it happens all the time. To get a 12 round hammering though, shows a true difference in abilities.

That is like if everyone said the Pavlik/Hopkins fight was some kind of fluke, and that a Pavlik/Hopkins rematch would show a true Pavlik.

The second Quintana/Williams fight was a great result by Williams, but it did little to prove the deficiencies Williams showed in the first fight have miraculously disappeared.

Co sign!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[Pullcounter]

My thoughts exactly. Fighters can get caught cold early. it happens all the time. To get a 12 round hammering though, shows a true difference in abilities.

That is like if everyone said the Pavlik/Hopkins fight was some kind of fluke, and that a Pavlik/Hopkins rematch would show a true Pavlik.

The second Quintana/Williams fight was a great result by Williams, but it did little to prove the deficiencies Williams showed in the first fight have miraculously disappeared.

how can you have a fluke in the rematch when you already know how to beat the other guy???

the fluke excuse only works if the boxer loses the first fight but is vindicated in the rematch (ala williams). the fluke excuse doesn't work in reverse.

[Owlzfan84]

i actually think this fight proves how tough of a fighter Williams is. Quintana is one of the best welterweights in the world.. arguably top five. You could tell Williams was overlooking Quintana a bit, and Quintana fought a near perfect fight. Even fighting a near perfect fight, it was still a very close and competitive fight.

Next time around, Williams was more focused and hungry, and he wiped the floor with Quintana.

[deanrw]

how can you have a fluke in the rematch when you already know how to beat the other guy???

the fluke excuse only works if the boxer loses the first fight but is vindicated in the rematch (ala williams). the fluke excuse doesn't work in reverse.

There is no way Williams camp could have predicted a 1 round thrashing in the second fight. Simply put Quintana got caught. I'm not saying it was a fluke but Williams may have been very lucky that he got Quintana out of there early because we may have seen the first fight all over again once Quintana found his groove.

A third fight may have went very differently again. The first fight could have went like the second fight if Quintana got caught early. The second fight only proved that Williams did his job, but it did little in telling us that he has Quintana's style locked down. Quintana got caught cold plain and simple. That is not taking anything away from Williams, but a rubber match was in order IMO.

[screwhead1]

simple explanation for this...you have never seen paul fight like that since...or even before...he had a bad night...if he would have fought winky or margo like that...he would have been ko'ed...this fight is just a reference to why you should train for every fight like it's for your life...