have u lost respect for srl, bhop, jcc, sweet p???

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  • shekwan
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    #11
    Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
    I dont think the catchweights is as much of a problem when it helps to create a mega fight betweem two evenly matched guys at different but congruent weight devisions. But when catchweight is used to give some legitimacy to an otherwise very visible mismatch, just to make it appear as even fight when it is not, say for example a supermiddleweight prime Roy Jones Decided to fight prime or not so prime welterweight Oscar De La Hoya at 160, then there is a problem in the eyes of some. Looking at the concept of catchweight instead of the actual circumstances is giving a ligitimacy where it should not be given.
    How do you feel about heavyweights? There's no cap on that but Klitschko beat Chagaev in a championship bout THIS year outweighing over 20lbs. That's not an advantage? Haye will fight Valuev, and will weigh 215ish, while Valuev has come over 300lbs. That's not an advantage? Why is it acceptable for heavyweights, but we get so much flack for 2lbs in Pac Cotto fight. Ridiculous.

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    • Doctor_Tenma
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      #12
      Originally posted by Pullcounter
      So u donot respect bhop, srl, jcc and sweet p and u don't consider their catchweight fights to be legitimate championship fights?
      No I do, I didn't say I didn't. Doesn't make sense to me, on how you came with that sort of conclusion. What I'm saying is, we should change that.

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      • BrooklynBomber
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        #13
        Originally posted by baracuda
        heres the dumbass winner everyone....not ok with pac vs cotto.....atleast do it in the other thread ....lol
        Dont talk to me unless addressed to.. Besides the fact that you got everything completely wrong, which I would only expect from a paranoid schizo for whome anything in his dillusional world that is not in accord with his picture of reality is a threat, you are also ****** enough to have a reading comprehension of a slug.
        So, for not, fuck off and rot.

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          #14
          I dont mind catchweight fights but I dont agree with the title being on the line. You gotta allow the champion to come in at the limit.

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            #15
            Originally posted by shekwan
            How do you feel about heavyweights? There's no cap on that but Klitschko beat Chagaev in a championship bout THIS year outweighing over 20lbs. That's not an advantage? Haye will fight Valuev, and will weigh 215ish, while Valuev has come over 300lbs. That's not an advantage? Why is it acceptable for heavyweights, but we get so much flack for 2lbs in Pac Cotto fight. Ridiculous.
            Thats why heavyweights are special, and the division to rule them all.
            And people still dont understand that the problem is not so much weight difference but the weight draining that the fighters have to go through where even one pound north or south can make all the difference in health and energy for the fighter. Also, a fighter that has to go through more weight draining is more likely to get braindamaged.

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            • Doctor_Tenma
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              #16
              Originally posted by Dirk Diggler UK
              I dont mind catchweight fights but I dont agree with the title being on the line. You gotta allow the champion to come in at the limit.
              Exactly, and thats all there is to it. Doesn't mean that we've lost respect for SRL, B-Hop, JCC and Whitaker. Just ****** how someone would come up with that conclusion.

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              • baracuda
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                #17
                Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
                Dont talk to me unless addressed to.. Besides the fact that you got everything completely wrong, which I would only expect from a paranoid schizo for whome anything in his dillusional world that is not in accord with his picture of reality is a threat, you are also ****** enough to have a reading comprehension of a slug.
                So, for not, fuck off and rot.
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                • Pullcounter
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                  #18
                  Originally posted by BrooklynBomber
                  Look, what fighter says, and what fighter goes through are two big differences.
                  So u know cotto better than himself and his nutritionist?

                  But it is not even so much that one pound actually does make a difference when shredding off weight, because you will have to work a bit more and eat a bit less, actually concentrating more on weight maintanance work then boxing, and doing less boxing(because the fighter will have less energy) will all accumulate.
                  And u don't think cotto and his team haven't already considered this? U insinuating that cotto and his team are a bunch of amatuers?

                  But it is also a political thing, with pacman's team giving the terms on which they fight.
                  I'm pretty sure roach is trying to protect his boxer from a huge WW too
                  I am hoping Cotto does win, as I dont like Manny and dont like anyone associated with him, but still, Miguel is at a disadvantage.
                  Who's got the bigger disadvantage: cotto weighing in 1 lbs kless than he did against clottey, or pac giving up 10+ lbs to cotto on fight night?

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                  • Pullcounter
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                    #19
                    Originally posted by THE PLATANO MAN
                    Exactly, and thats all there is to it. Doesn't mean that we've lost respect for SRL, B-Hop, JCC and Whitaker. Just ****** how someone would come up with that conclusion.
                    So when srl, bhop, jcc and whitaker and every other boxer that fought for championships at a catchweight weren't legit because they were at catchweight?

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                    • Pullcounter
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                      #20
                      Originally posted by THE PLATANO MAN
                      No I do, I didn't say I didn't. Doesn't make sense to me, on how you came with that sort of conclusion. What I'm saying is, we should change that.
                      So when did u conclude this position? Did u hold to this opinion a long time ago or just recently?

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