MANNY PACQUIAO: 10x Faster than Cotto

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  • Fights
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    #41
    Originally posted by oc9979
    Lol 10x faster haha so that mean that mosley is 10x slower than pacquiao and mayweather is about 8 x slower thanpacquiao.
    What about zab judah
    Off topic. This is a Pacquiao and Cotto thread.

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    • Primal Instinx
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      #42
      hey did ya'll hear Manny say "Zing Zing" after every punch....**** is funny...like he knows he's got the handspeed down.

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      • rao007
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        #43
        No offense. I'm a Pacquiao fan--but don't use training vids to assess functional speed-the speed you actually use effectively in fights. When you put a side-by-side video comparison between Pacquiao and Cotto fights--Cotto IS NOT SLOW. His jab and and counters are pretty damn fast.

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        • p4p-champ
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          #44
          Originally posted by Fights
          Check out Compubox. Pacquiao never lost a round in his past 3 fights.
          I guess that officially makes Pacman 10x faster lol

          Seriously though, Pacman is fast but not as ridiculously fast as the hype machine would have you think. The one thing that counters speed is having good timing, which is something Cotto is known for.

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            #45
            Originally posted by p4p-champ
            I guess that officially makes Pacman 10x faster lol
            It was a response to his speed being unavoidable.

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            • rob6465
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              #46
              What the HELL was Oscar trying to do ? He looked like he could not move. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Pacman fans, DO NOT USE Ricky"leave myself open" Hatton AND Oscar"can't punch" Dela Hoya videos on this forum anymore. Use the Marquez fight

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                #47
                Originally posted by rob6465
                What the HELL was Oscar trying to do ? He looked like he could not move. PLEASEEEEEEEEEEEEEE Pacman fans, DO NOT USE Ricky"leave myself open" Hatton AND Oscar"can't punch" Dela Hoya videos on this forum anymore. Use the Marquez fight
                Counterpunching the Counterpuncher

                [IMG]http://i19.***********.com/albums/b192/dreamflow/hayemakerpac.gif[/IMG]

                Pacquiao faked a jab and as soon as Marquez started countering with a left hook, Pacquiao ducked and threw a huge left of his own. Perfect. Common during Pacquiao's sparring session but rare during his actual fights.


                Backpedal Counterpunching

                [IMG]http://i19.***********.com/albums/b192/dreamflow/end11th2.gif[/IMG]

                When Marquez moves forward, Pacquiao backpedals for a counterpunch.

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                • RRICAN
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                  #48
                  Originally posted by Fights
                  I've been watching Pacquiao since the 1990s. Here's my top 5 improvements for Pacquiao throughout the years.

                  Manny Pacquiao is one of those athletes who are genetically gifted. He has inborn speed, fast footwork, freakish stamina, durable chin, powerful punches, and ambidextrous hands. But gifts can only take you so far, a fighter also needs training and hard work.


                  Mid 1990s: Bullet Left

                  When Pacquiao was just first starting out in boxing, he keeps moving forward. Even with his gifts, Pacquiao's defense was just not that good.

                  He was a one trick pony - jab, jab, straight left. He won most of his early fights by overwhelming his enemies with barrages of lefts. Pacquiao was punched a lot, but he didn't mind, as long as his machine gun lefts keeps raining.

                  The right jab has double purpose, as a measuring stick and as a setup for his powerful straight left to the face. His left is so fast that most of his opponents didn’t see what hit them. The power of Manny Pacquiao’s left straight comes from his legs, using his whole body starting from his calf muscles.


                  Late 1990s: Face Body Combo

                  This is when the Combo first appeared. During this time Manny incorporated his famous face and body combo. Once his opponent covers up to protect the face, Pacquiao follows-up with a punch to the side of the body. Up and down, up and down, over and over again, Pacquiao targeting the uncovered part.


                  Early 2000s: Crossover

                  This is when the crossover defense footwork manifested. After straighting his opponent with his left, he circles to the right of his opponents. By the time the opponent throws a counter, Manny is nowhere to be found, he's already behind them. It's like a crossover move in a sport that Manny Pacquiao plays - basketball.


                  2005 to Present: Manila Ice

                  When Freddie Roach became Pacquiao's new trainer, he saw Pacquiao's obvious weakness: over-relying on the straight left.

                  Marquez capitalized on this weakness during the first fight. His lost to Morales showed that Pacquiao was still relying on his straight left, and not incorporating the right hand as planned.

                  Roach drilled Pacquiao to use his natural gift of ambidextrous hands - hence the right hook, a.k.a. "Manila Ice" was born. So began the long and repetitious training of Pacquiao's right hand.

                  “Sometimes I get bored doing the right hook over and over again,” said Pacquiao.

                  It took Pacquiao years to perfect the right hook. The Manila Ice was first seen during the Velasquez fight. It was evident during the Morales 3, Marquez 2, Diaz, and De la Hoya fight. It was perfected during the Hatton fight.

                  The Manila Ice is now as powerful as the Bullet Left.


                  2005 to Present: Combo Version 2

                  Remember the Face Body Combo? Well, it is now upgraded. The variety of punches are now staggering: hooks, uppercuts, crosses, jabs, straights. Pacquiao moves in and out, side to side, throwing trajectory angle power punches while moving at an unpredictable direction at an uncanny speed. It used to be 2 combo at most, now it is 4 or 5. And his stamina is still there, he never gets tired punching.


                  Manny Pacquiao is still improving:
                  - fighting backwards
                  - counter-punching
                  so....cotto shouldnt even show up????

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                    #49
                    Originally posted by RRICAN
                    so....cotto shouldnt even show up????
                    Who said that?

                    Cotto is a good fighter. I would like to see him fight Manny to see if he can handle the speed.

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                    • RRICAN
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                      #50
                      Originally posted by Fights
                      Who said that?

                      Cotto is a good fighter. I would like to see him fight Manny to see if he can handle the speed.
                      that wont be a problem for cotto, cuz manny will be going backwards the whole fight. can he fight like that???

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