Long Time PPV Promoter Joe Hand: Boxing is Dead

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  • Talisayen
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    #21
    Actually, in the long run UFC will be a good thing for boxing. In the business world, competition is good. Good in the sense that it will wake up and alert boxing officials and promoters that the services they provide are in dire need of improvements and/or enhancements to compete with UFC.

    The reason boxing is on the decline is due to sharks like GBP, HBO, Top Rank ... who became greedy enough to focus their objective not to the sport of boxing but for themselves (fatten their bank accounts) and forgot to put into consideration competition from UFC and the long term effect to the end consumers.

    I strongly beleived that the sport of boxing will come alive again to it's glory days if promoters and boxing officials spend more money and effort to improve the sport (i.e. undercard, clearer rules and regulation...) rather than their insatiable greed for the almighty dollars.

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      #22
      In 5 years UFC will cease to exist.

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      • Lucky Charms
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        #23
        Originally posted by Wanderlei_Silva
        LOL @ Sin City giving me Red K for a story that isn't even mine. You gonna cry phag? hahaha
        phag? You deserve the red k. You obviously like MMA more than boxing (nothing wrong with that) and you posted this to be a ****. More than anything you deserve red k because this same exact thread was already posted today.

        And Joe Hand's opinion doesn't matter. He is butt hurt because HBO has been putting great fights on regular HBO and he gets less money.

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        • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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          #24
          Originally posted by Talisayen
          In 5 years UFC will cease to exist.
          You can't seriously believe this?

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          • Miklo Velka
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            #25
            Originally posted by Lucky Charms
            phag? You deserve the red k. You obviously like MMA more than boxing (nothing wrong with that) and you posted this to be a ****. More than anything you deserve red k because this same exact thread was already posted today.

            And Joe Hand's opinion doesn't matter. He is butt hurt because HBO has been putting great fights on regular HBO and he gets less money.
            yea he loves mma more than he loves boxing.



            ....this is what i say to MMA ..

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            • Left2body
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              #26
              The thing about boxing PPV is that IF the Main Event is terribly appealing to you then you arent going to buy it because the Under Cards to PPV are GARBAGE. MMA has more depth in there cards.

              I haven't seen a good under-card to a PPV since Morales-Pac I. We are inundated with ESPN Wednesday night fight caliber fights. Actually worse than that since those are usually well matched fights. PPV's usually have totally one sided mismatches. How many times have we suffered through a Chavez Jr fight on a Top Rank PPV event. Fights that are against Tomato cans meant to just give Jr. some rounds and gain a little experience are on PPV?

              The best thing to happen to boxing in a Long long time is the Super Six tournament which I am very excited about.

              For instance.....I am on the fence about if I am going to buy the PBF-JMM but if lets say JuanMa vs Caballero was on the undercard then **** I would buy it. Even though I wouldn't necessarily buy a PPV with just one of those fights but combined I would.

              Sometimes I want boxing to fail and hit rock bottom so that it can finally learn and reorganize into a more cohesive fan friendly sport. As it is Boxing is the Most FRUSTRATING Sport for fans.

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              • princemanspoper
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                #27
                The problem is the the qoute "boxing is dying" has become such a cliche that is simply cannot be taken seriously.This goes back decades before the ufc even existed.So why would the ufc's emergence have anything to do with boxing's decline?

                The ufc's fanbase are from pro wrestling and that's a fact,Go look at the demographics.Their grown up pro wrestling fans who now have the ufc as a sort of real pro wrestling show with their white trash stars like chuck liddell to look up to.Ufc hasn't taken boxing fans.boxing fans most of whom were never real fans in the first place merely lost interest in the lack of star power and just up and left

                My opinion is that mma is for ****** who like to watch two grown steroid induced half naked men grapple for dominant position and that just isn't right

                I you watch mma then you have serious issues because no self respecting member fo society could possibly watch this redneck downgraded pro wrestling show

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                • RoyJonesJrp4pno1
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                  #28
                  Originally posted by Left2body
                  The thing about boxing PPV is that IF the Main Event is terribly appealing to you then you arent going to buy it because the Under Cards to PPV are GARBAGE. MMA has more depth in there cards.

                  I haven't seen a good under-card to a PPV since Morales-Pac I. We are inundated with ESPN Wednesday night fight caliber fights. Actually worse than that since those are usually well matched fights. PPV's usually have totally one sided mismatches. How many times have we suffered through a Chavez Jr fight on a Top Rank PPV event. Fights that are against Tomato cans meant to just give Jr. some rounds and gain a little experience are on PPV?

                  The best thing to happen to boxing in a Long long time is the Super Six tournament which I am very excited about.

                  For instance.....I am on the fence about if I am going to buy the PBF-JMM but if lets say JuanMa vs Caballero was on the undercard then **** I would buy it. Even though I wouldn't necessarily buy a PPV with just one of those fights but combined I would.

                  Sometimes I want boxing to fail and hit rock bottom so that it can finally learn and reorganize into a more cohesive fan friendly sport. As it is Boxing is the Most FRUSTRATING Sport for fans.
                  The card for Valero-pitalua was awesome.

                  MMA is much easier to make their U/C's.

                  First of all they can match up anybody they want because records means nothing and 2 bums fighting in MMA is more entertaining than 2 bums fighting in boxing. They can put fighters who are 3-2 against a fighter who is 1-2 and it will be deemed as a quality match up. Their heavyweight champ has 4 fights and is a huge draw because he is WWE merchandise.

                  Secondly boxing recieves tv dates. No fighter is going to be expected to earn a couple dimes on a PPV U/C when they can get their own date from HBO and earn 7 figures for that.

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                  • TheNegation
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                    #29
                    Originally posted by Lucky Charms
                    phag? You deserve the red k. You obviously like MMA more than boxing (nothing wrong with that) and you posted this to be a ****. More than anything you deserve red k because this same exact thread was already posted today.

                    And Joe Hand's opinion doesn't matter. He is butt hurt because HBO has been putting great fights on regular HBO and he gets less money.
                    Originally posted by Miklo Velka
                    yea he loves mma more than he loves boxing.



                    ....this is what i say to MMA ..
                    You don't know **** bro.

                    I was into boxing before MMA and I still consider myself a boxing fan. I still watch fights on HBO and still buy PPV's that Jones Jr and Pacquiao fight on.

                    I am still more into MMA but that doesn't mean I don't like boxing, nor do I agree that it is dead but it has caused boxing to up it's game.

                    I didn't post this article to take a **** on boxing, it has to do with boxing and it's relevant to it so I posted it in the boxing section. I didn't do it to piss anybody off, although I wouldn't need to post an article to piss you guys off because the mention of MMA automatically sends you elitists into PMS mode.

                    I love both sports but just because you guys can't stand the fact that another combat sport exists doesn't mean you have to take it out on the person posting the article.

                    Clean the sand out of your vagina's and stop being so hypersensitive. I didn't even make a comment on the subject and I'm the bad guy?


                    LOL.

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                    • Gettin Jiggy
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                      #30
                      Originally posted by Wanderlei_Silva
                      You don't know **** bro.

                      I was into boxing before MMA and I still consider myself a boxing fan. I still watch fights on HBO and still buy PPV's that Jones Jr and Pacquiao fight on.

                      I am still more into MMA but that doesn't mean I don't like boxing, nor do I agree that it is dead but it has caused boxing to up it's game.

                      I didn't post this article to take a **** on boxing, it has to do with boxing and it's relevant to it so I posted it in the boxing section. I didn't do it to piss anybody off, although I wouldn't need to post an article to piss you guys off because the mention of MMA automatically sends you elitists into PMS mode.

                      I love both sports but just because you guys can't stand the fact that another combat sport exists doesn't mean you have to take it out on the person posting the article.

                      Clean the sand out of your vagina's and stop being so hypersensitive. I didn't even make a comment on the subject and I'm the bad guy?


                      LOL.
                      do you train/fight in mma or boxing?

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