Referee David Mendozas phantom punch

[Swoosh]

Oh so were playing games now?

Guess what? Its boxing, when you get cut, blood goes into your eye and by extension you cant see.

Nate is not some new ***ing case that we've never seen before.

It happens all the time.

Some fighters behave like fighters and some behave like calculating bitches and quit.

Nate is the latter.

Again, whats the ***ing mystery here?

I'm trying to help you understand here but you keep coming off like someone who lost a lot of money on the fight.

Let me repeat this,

The cut was NOT an issue. The blood from the cut was NOT an issue. It was a hemorrhage behind the eyeball.

Something a ringside cutman could not control.

I'm not saying that this is something serious enough where Nate could have continued or not. I have no idea if once something like this happens if more punches or headbutts could further the damage or not. I'm not a Dr.

I do know, that Nate didn't know the answer to this either and when in doubt of losing vision in your eye, something he was already experiencing due to the "spots" floating across his eye, Nate chose to end the night.

This wasn't like fighting through a broken hand, a torn muscle, or a cut with blood streaming into your eye. This was internal damage that was unknown.

I'm more then willing to argue the facts with you.

• Was the cut caused by a butt, yes.

• Was it intentional, IMO, probably not.

• Did a cut appear? Yes.

• Did it bleed? Yes

• Did the blood cause Nate to quit? No

• Did other damage, besides the superficial damage we saw on TV occur? According to Nate, the ringside Dr and the hospital, yes vitreous hemorrhage occurred.

• Was the damage ruled from a butt? No

• Could Nate have continued? I don't know.

• Did Nate quit? Yes.

• Did he have more than sufficient reason? Yes

• Is Nate a quitter? No

• Was the fight settled in the ring? No

• Should the decision be ruled a NC? Yes

• Should they fight again? Absolutely.

So if you'd like to argue any of these facts, feel free, but unless you have walked the man's shoes, or any man's shoes for that matter, be more selective when you call someone a quitter.

[JACK D. RIPPER]

I'm trying to help you understand here but you keep coming off like someone who lost a lot of money on the fight.

Let me repeat this,

The cut was NOT an issue. The blood from the cut was NOT an issue. It was a hemorrhage behind the eyeball.

Something a ringside cutman could not control.

I'm not saying that this is something serious enough where Nate could have continued or not. I have no idea if once something like this happens if more punches or headbutts could further the damage or not. I'm not a Dr.

I do know, that Nate didn't know the answer to this either and when in doubt of losing vision in your eye, something he was already experiencing due to the "spots" floating across his eye, Nate chose to end the night.

This wasn't like fighting through a broken hand, a torn muscle, or a cut with blood streaming into your eye. This was internal damage that was unknown.

I'm more then willing to argue the facts with you.

• Was the cut caused by a butt, yes.

• Was it intentional, IMO, probably not.

• Did a cut appear? Yes.

• Did it bleed? Yes

• Did the blood cause Nate to quit? No

• Did other damage, besides the superficial damage we saw on TV occur? According to Nate, the ringside Dr and the hospital, yes vitreous hemorrhage occurred.

• Was the damage ruled from a butt? No

• Could Nate have continued? I don't know.

• Did Nate quit? Yes.

• Did he have more than sufficient reason? Yes

• Is Nate a quitter? No

• Was the fight settled in the ring? No

• Should the decision be ruled a NC? Yes

• Should they fight again? Absolutely.

So if you'd like to argue any of these facts, feel free, but unless you have walked the man's shoes, or any man's shoes for that matter, be more selective when you call someone a quitter.

Excuses.

Nate quit.

[deanrw]

vitreous hemorrhage

"Vitreous hemorrhage is the extravasation of blood into one of the several potential spaces formed within and around the vitreous body. This condition may result directly from retinal tears or neovascularization of the retina, or it may be related to bleeding from preexisting blood vessels in these structures.
The vitreous body is bounded posterolaterally by the internal limiting membrane of the retina, anterolaterally by the nonpigmented epithelium of the ciliary body, and anteriorly by the lens zonular fibers and posterior lens capsule. The retrolental space of Erggelet and the canal of Petit are potential spaces. These 2 spaces are located between the anterior hyaloid membrane, the posterior lens capsule, and the orbiculoposterocapsular portion of the zonular fibers. The hyaloideocapsular ligament separates them from each other."


He was actually bleeding inside the eye either around the retina, or just behind the lens if he was seeing spots.

[Swoosh]

Excuses.

Nate quit.

Thank you for proving to the 500 or so lurkers on this board that you're a chump.

[RRICAN]

and heres the butt......

[IMG]http://i223.***********.com/albums/dd212/onepunch_photos/headbutt.jpg[/IMG]

he always fight like that,dirty as hell !!!!

[swizz]

i watch the fight the ref made a bad call i dont see how he defend it himself because u clearly saw a big ass headbutt

[Bhopreign]

The fact that he said he saw a butt should be end of story. I think he was just bias towards Nate anyway, Nate was trying to get the ref to see other things well before that butt and the ref probably felt Nate was showing him up a bit.

[Bhopreign]

Thank you for proving to the 500 or so lurkers on this board that you're a chump.

He just wants somebody to talk to, theres a reason he's on my ignore list.

[Bhopreign]

David " the fuzz head " Mendoza............. i said when i saw the ref that this guy is no good. i call him the fuzz head because he has a huge head and a fuzz that he claims is hair.........

but i've been a critic of this guy for a while, i've seen him miss a lot of calls in his fights, all of which, just like in the bradley campbell fight, he was staring right at the fighters at the moment of the accident, a guy that sees that many fights, has that much experience, knows exactly what he saw, and saw exactly what happen.............. the guy is corrupt, you could see that he was backsliding on from what he said, to what he saw, to what the outcome was.

you can see him watching at point blank range when the cut happen, and after nate complained, he signaled to the judges, then a few seconds after that he starts signaling that it was from a punch. all the while, nate was complaining and making it aware that he was butted and the ref ignored him. personally, nate was in there fighting two guys, bradley and the ref............ mendoza is a shady dude, i've always questioned his refereeing abilities......

I thought I was the only one, I didnt like him in previous fights also, only Mercante Jr. do I prefer not to see even more.

[JACK D. RIPPER]

Thank you for proving to the 500 or so lurkers on this board that you're a chump.

Thank you for proving to the 500 or so lurkers that you make excuses for a brokeback quitter.

Just remember Robbie Peden.

You support a born loser.