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Bernard Hopkins @175lbs, i've just realised, what a load of crap!

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  • #41
    B Hop should fight Dawson, if not, then he should just retire, it's time to go man, he's done more than enough for this sport.

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    • #42
      **** ****hop, he's a fraud. That piece of **** has the nerve to call Joe C the biggest conman in boxing! That shows how much dignity he has-zero! He has never had dignity or class. He stayed champion so long in M division because there were not many good fighters there then. And it took him what, 7 years to become the undisputed champion? Whatever. RJJ woulda beaten him anytime, he still can. Toney too.

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      • #43
        Kelly fought once at 166 lbs and couldn't even make it, he only made 164 lbs. If you mention his early fights then mention Hopkins' early fight at 175+ lbs.

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        • #44
          Originally posted by nouseforaname View Post
          B Hop should fight Dawson, if not, then he should just retire, it's time to go man, he's done more than enough for this sport.
          He is waiting to see the winner between Johnson-Dawson...

          Originally posted by Benncollinsaad View Post
          **** ****hop, he's a fraud. That piece of **** has the nerve to call Joe C the biggest conman in boxing! That shows how much dignity he has-zero! He has never had dignity or class. He stayed champion so long in M division because there were not many good fighters there then. And it took him what, 7 years to become the undisputed champion? Whatever. RJJ woulda beaten him anytime, he still can. Toney too.
          Bernard is the farthest thing from a fraud. Luckily, nobody will take you serious with this kind of post.

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          • #45
            Hopkins and Floyd are very clever with the fights they sign.

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            • #46
              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              Calzaghe was a legit 175 pound fighter, it was his plan to move up to LHW and he proved against nard and roy jones he fit very well there.
              Calzaghe wasn't a legit 175er at the time he fought Hopkins. Calzaghe was a 36 year old who fought at 168 his whole career and then moved up to 175 to fight Hopkins. At the time of that fight, that doesn't make him a legit 175er as he'd never fought there before.

              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              Tarver 3 years ago was THE MAN at 175, he was coming off of wins over Roy jones & glen johnson and was a big favorite to smash hopkins who I remind you was moving up to LHW from 160 OVER THE AGE OF 40.
              It was a very good win, but you can't dismiss the fact Tarver dropped a ton of weight due to the Rocky movie.

              Originally posted by ИATAS206
              Pavlik - undefeated fighter, huge favorite over nard. He is the same size as hopkins (don't forget hopkins was a middleweight for 20 years) and his plan was to move up in weight prior to losing to hopkins (both pavlik & his trainer mentioned over and over that they couldn't make 160 much longer and were planning on leaving middleweight).
              If that's really what his trainer and Pavlik himself said, why is Pavlik still fighting at 160 ? The Pavlik win was good, but vastly overrated. Hopkins beat a Pavlik 10 lbs out of his weight class who was one dimensional and overrated to begin with.

              Originally posted by Walt Liquor
              Not to mention Kelly's fights at 168
              Kelly's had about five fights against nobodies at 168....you mentioning Kelly fights at 168 holds as much ground as me bringing up the fact Kellys second fight he was 146.

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              • #47
                Originally posted by boxasmash View Post
                Kelly fought once at 166 lbs and couldn't even make it, he only made 164 lbs. If you mention his early fights then mention Hopkins' early fight at 175+ lbs.
                Smash, Kelly fought at 168 a number of times, you just don't know about it. Early in his career he had at least 6 fights at SMW. they didn't know what weight he would continue his career at until he started making 160 easier and beat Zuniga, up until that point, it was all up in the air, he was fighting at both.

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                • #48
                  Originally posted by Walt Liquor View Post
                  Smash, Kelly fought at 168 a number of times, you just don't know about it. Early in his career he had at least 6 fights at SMW. they didn't know what weight he would continue his career at until he started making 160 easier and beat Zuniga, up until that point, it was all up in the air, he was fighting at both.
                  He fought at 149-156 a number of times aswell. So what's your point? He adapted into 160 and had his best wins there.

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                  • #49
                    Hopkisn is the best 175lber in the world. Anyone who disagrees is delusional.

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                    • #50
                      How many titles did he win at 168?

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