I can't blame anyone for quitting....

[Drunken Cat]

The first part of this is complete bull****.

They know we're going to watch ; this is our sport, we love this sport. So much so that we're still willing to put up with the stranglehold a few people seem to have on it, and the monopoly that PPV and the Networks have over big fights.

Of course we're going to watch.

Scenario.....

Say you are starving one day, right?

And you stop in a restaurant to get a bite to eat.

So you order a steak, but the waiter brings you a pile of dog**** instead.

Would you be pissed?

Of course you would.

Now why would you be pissed?

Because you expected steak but got ****, that's why.

Well we expected a 2 fights and got nothing but 2 ***** quitters.

We have every right to be mad.

And don't give me that **** about Nate's health either ; he was in no serious jeopardy whatsoever.

Aside from getting the brakes beaten off of him by Bradley anyway.

Guys like Cotto, Klitschko, Marquez, Vazquez, Judah, and tons of others have had way worse cuts and went on to fight their battles like men rather than looking for an easy way out.

Nate was getting his **** knocked into the dirt and he decided to quit because it hadn't been 4 rounds yet and doing so after 4 would allow him no face whatsoever to be saved.

This is a false dichotomy. A fight is not a commodity, let alone a foodstuff; hence, it follows that a bad fight is not akin to dog ****.

The nature of boxing is that there are some good fights and some bad. I understand your frustration at tonight's events. I share it to an extent (even though I was hardly able to watch **** because of ****ty streams), as this was a pretty well anticipated card to me, particularly given the summer drought of decent boxing cards which we have been experiencing.

Even so, I don't blame the fighters for what transpired. Personally, I am more inclined to view it as an unfortunate turn of events on what was, on paper, a pretty good fight card.

[TredKiller]

the fact is, niether witter or campbell were in irious troble, campbell had been in worse situations befor,

and fighters know the cost of getting in that ring, and the get paid houndreds of thousands of dollars a fight to do it, some cases millions, there not SUPPOSED to quite, there are some exceptions, like if its life or death, THEN you can quite, but not just becaz you lost a round.

take the guy in my sig for example, gatti, he never won a ton of titles, but you wanna know why he'll be remmemberd more then most champs? because he gave us everything.

this is boxing, know what it is b4 you get in it.

[Drunken Cat]

There is certainly something to be said about the duality of a boxing fan.

You should research it when you get into that University in Tokyo.

In your spare time, of course.

Yeah man, that is an interesting paradox for sure. I'm no psychologist, however.

Anyways man, I was just venting some thoughts over the last couple of posts, not to be directed at you or anything.

Boxing is indeed a vicious sport. It is easy not to realize this for those who have never laced on a pair of gloves.

[ßringer]

This is a false dichotomy. A fight is not a commodity, let alone a foodstuff; hence, it follows that a bad fight is not akin to dog ****.

The nature of boxing is that there are some good fights and some bad. I understand your frustration at tonight's events. I share it to an extent (even though I was hardly able to watch **** because of ****ty streams), as this was a pretty well anticipated card to me, particularly given the summer drought of decent boxing cards which we have been experiencing.

Even so, I don't blame the fighters for what transpired. Personally, I am more inclined to view it as an unfortunate turn of events on what was, on paper, a pretty good fight card.

1.) When you said the part about a bad fight not being akin to dog****, I was going to reply with "Have you ever seen Taylor/Spinks?".

2.) I'm not really blaming Nate at all ; like you, I'm venting. Truth be told he has a legit case and the fight should be ruled a "no contest". I've got nothing against him, but I just think he went for the easy way out based on the severity of cuts I've seen many other fighters cope with and control.

Personally, I never thought he'd be able to compete at 140lbs anyway.

I guess we'll find out whenever his next fight is.

We didn't get anything tonight aside from controvery ; that's why I'm venting.

It's been a long, ****ty summer for boxing with no good fights and nothing but bad news and death.

I was hoping to get a good scrap but both fights ended with a man quitting.

I'm disappointed.

[Drunken Cat]

1.) When you said the part about a bad fight not being akin to dog****, I was going to reply with "Have you ever seen Taylor/Spinks?".

2.) I'm not really blaming Nate at all ; like you, I'm venting. Truth be told he has a legit case and the fight should be ruled a "no contest". I've got nothing against him, but I just think he went for the easy way out based on the severity of cuts I've seen many other fighters cope with and control.

Personally, I never thought he'd be able to compete at 140lbs anyway.

I guess we'll find out whenever his next fight is.

We didn't get anything tonight aside from controvery ; that's why I'm venting.

It's been a long, ****ty summer for boxing with no good fights and nothing but bad news and death.

I was hoping to get a good scrap but both fights ended with a man quitting.

I'm disappointed.

Yeah man, I hear you completely. I would say the people to which I was referring are not true fans because they do not really respect the sport or the fighters. And I'm not talking about the jokes about Cotto taking knees, etc. etc. because it's all in jest. I'm referring to the people who will literally degrade fighters.

For example, like this article from the Examiner which was on my googlenews page:

Junior Quitter Witter: UK boxing takes it on chin again

This one is too easy for a jokester like me.

You can call him Junior "Quitter" Witter now.

At least Ricky Hatton went out on his shield against Manny Pacquiao.

Trailing badly on points against unbeaten American Devon Alexander in a fight for the WBC 140 pound title Saturday night in Rancho Mirage, Ca., former world champion Witter from Sheffield, England, inexplicably quit on his stool.

In the Alexander corner, manager-trainer and ex-St. Louis cop kevin Cunningham was giving instructions to the 22 year old St. Louis fighter when the 35 year old Witter shoved him aside.

Dr. Lou Moret, the California commission veteran referee, had just warned the British fighter not to keep holding or he would have points taken away.

Suddenly, Witter's trainer indicated the fight was over and Witter did not object but rushed off his stool to race to the winner's corner.

Witter comes from Sheffield, the same city as former UK ring superstar Prince Naseem Hamed.

Witter, who is likely finished now as a pro, has a 37-3-2 record across a 12 year career.

Both men are lefthanded although Witter kept switching stance from righthanded to southpaw.

Alexander was dominant from start to finish and two judges had him in front 79-73 while the third called it 80-72.

Alexander hurt Witter several times including with a spectacular left in the fifth round. Somehow, Witter avoided going down from that smashing blow.

Al;exander started training with Cunningham at age seven and, back then, he saw a photo of world champion Hi,lmer Kenty wearing a green and gold WBC title belt. The youngster told a reporter he would acquire such a belt.

Now, at the ripe old age of 22, he has that strap. Alexander's record is now 19-0,

"God is good!" a humble Alexander said on Showtime.

Alexander mentioned his deceased father and it was noted that he visits his father's grave every Friday.

Witter, meanwhile, just buried his career.

On this night, "Hitter" Witter became "Quitter" Witter.

UK boxing continues to sag.

Mind you the Examiner is a horrible "news" publication. I didn't read more then a couple lines either.

[baracuda]

nate,guerrero,zab,ortiz,witter,cintron,etc....are what i call....QUITTERS.....

[jazluvr]

I can see a boxer quitting if he has a really good reason, such as an imminent injury that could result in serious permenant damage, that could disfigure him, maim him for life or ruin his boxing career, or has sustained so much damage that it is just too painful to even stand up, let alone fight.

But when i saw Witter quit with no injury that was substantial, that was putting him in any real danger, was just a ***** move. I got no respect for someone who just outright quits because he doesn't think he can win. If every boxer did that, there would be no upsets or comebacks or glory. No Arturro type hereos.

Cotto took hits with loaded gloves (i don't give a **** what anybody says, he didn't get banned for nothing) for how ever many rounds after that crap hardened. Before that he was doing pretty dam good before the plaster hardened and took it's toll.

He also fought with a nasty gash in his fight with Clottey and never quit. He didn't quit in that fight because he knew Clotteys gloves weren't loaded. A fighter's GOT to be able to tell he's getting hit with something unatural. Many other fighters have fought through with nasty gashes, but one guys orbital socket got f'd up cuz he kept fighting.

That's a career hobbler. Lots of guys kept on fighting with nasty cuts and ****, but if you think you're going to get hurt seriously, and so much that it could do permenant damage, and/or ruin your career, i don't blame you for quitting. But i seen some kid in another fight on showtime (the new generation) quit just because he was getting beat, not even with a cut. No damage, he was just discouraged.

He also gets the ***** award. I didn't like Witter in his previous fight anyway. He comes off as having a snobbish, superior attitude. Then in his next fight, quits for no good reason.